how to become an university lecturer

[mrleafeon]

i have applied for bachelor of education (sc) in ntu.
But i really have no idea about what should i do in order to become university lecturer or a teacher in junior college teaching chemistry or biology.
Can u help me by listing all the steps that I have to do? Do i need a postgraduate diploma (actually what is this?) or master degree or phD degree? I can perform multitask like teaching a few subjects.
Thanks for ur help =)

Originally Posted by mrleafeon

i have applied for bachelor of education (sc) in ntu.
But i really have no idea about what should i do in order to become university lecturer or a teacher in junior college teaching chemistry or biology.
Can u help me by listing all the steps that I have to do? Do i need a postgraduate diploma (actually what is this?) or master degree or phD degree? I can perform multitask like teaching a few subjects.
Thanks for ur help =)

1. You applied for NIE Bachelor of Education right? Meaning you are either from poly or JC, am I right?

2. A post-graduate diploma in education(PGDE) is something people that do not have a first degree in education take. Meaning, if I major in economics in NTU, then I want to go into teaching in government schools(pri, sec, JC), then I will need to go to NIE to take the PGDE, a 1-year course, before being eligible to teach.

3. Those who go direct into NIE from JC or poly are majoring in education, they dont take the PGDE. They take the 4 year degree with NIE and straight away teach.

4. You cannot teach in JC unless you have already obtained your first degree not from NIE. Meaning, if I want to teach chemistry in JC, I would need a chemistry degree first from NUS/NTU, and then go on to take a 1-year post-graduate diploma in education from NIE. If your first degree was from NIE, you will not be able to teach in JC. There are a few but its rare. This is because the JC syllabus is pretty advanced and they need someone who actually graduated in the field of which they are teaching. Meaning, only people who take route (2) can teach in JC, but you are now in route (3).

5. If you want to be a university lecturer, you need a Phd. So lets say I want to be an engineering lecturer. I must take my degree in engineering, then take my masters in engineering, then take my Phd in engineering. University lecturers are not from NIE/MOE lol. They are professionals in their fields. So a chemistry lecturer is a chemist, an economics lecturer is an economist.

6. If you want to be a university lecturer, you still can, but you will be a lecturer in NIE, meaning you will teach about education. This will require a similar route to (5), meaning that you will take a Bachelor of Education, followed by a Masters in Education then a Phd in Education.

To simplify what I said before, these are some of the routes:


JC/Poly>>>NIE 4 years>>> Teach in sec/pri>>>Take masters in education from NIE>>>Phd from NIE>>>Teach as a lecturer in NIE

JC/Poly>>> 4 year specialised degree from NUS/NTU(economics, history, physics etc)>>>1 year PGDE from NIE>>>Teach in JC/Sec/Pri>>>Take masters in education from NIE>>>Phd from NIE>>>Teach as a lecturer in NIE


JC/Poly>>> 4 year specialised degree from NUS/NTU(economics, history, physics etc)>>>1 year masters in your major>>>4 years Phd in your specialisation>>>Teach as a lecturer in universities in your area of specialisation

Quite worrying that an NTU grad can't do basic research!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Quite worrying that an NTU grad can't do basic research!

He has only "applied" for bachelor of education. Not accepted.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Quite worrying that an NTU grad can't do basic research!

cut him some slack. He isn't even in NTU yet, just a prospective student.

[mrleafeon]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. You applied for NIE Bachelor of Education right? Meaning you are either from poly or JC, am I right?

2. A post-graduate diploma in education(PGDE) is something people that do not have a first degree in education take. Meaning, if I major in economics in NTU, then I want to go into teaching in government schools(pri, sec, JC), then I will need to go to NIE to take the PGDE, a 1-year course, before being eligible to teach.

3. Those who go direct into NIE from JC or poly are majoring in education, they dont take the PGDE. They take the 4 year degree with NIE and straight away teach.

4. You cannot teach in JC unless you have already obtained your first degree not from NIE. Meaning, if I want to teach chemistry in JC, I would need a chemistry degree first from NUS/NTU, and then go on to take a 1-year post-graduate diploma in education from NIE. If your first degree was from NIE, you will not be able to teach in JC. There are a few but its rare. This is because the JC syllabus is pretty advanced and they need someone who actually graduated in the field of which they are teaching. Meaning, only people who take route (2) can teach in JC, but you are now in route (3).

5. If you want to be a university lecturer, you need a Phd. So lets say I want to be an engineering lecturer. I must take my degree in engineering, then take my masters in engineering, then take my Phd in engineering. University lecturers are not from NIE/MOE lol. They are professionals in their fields. So a chemistry lecturer is a chemist, an economics lecturer is an economist.

6. If you want to be a university lecturer, you still can, but you will be a lecturer in NIE, meaning you will teach about education. This will require a similar route to (5), meaning that you will take a Bachelor of Education, followed by a Masters in Education then a Phd in Education.

Thanks a lot. Nobody tells me this though. Okay i see now. I have applied to bachelor of sc (education), instead i should have applied for chemistry i wanna become a chemi lecturer in singapore, i have no idea that if i study chemi in malaysia, can i take the postdiploma degree in nie? How to apply for nie?

[mrleafeon]

Instead, i should ask how do i check the uni that are recognised by nie postdiploma degree? Or if i have done my phd of chemi in malaysia private uni, will nie accept my phd?

Originally Posted by mrleafeon

Thanks a lot. Nobody tells me this though. Okay i see now. I have applied to bachelor of sc (education), instead i should have applied for chemistry i wanna become a chemi lecturer in singapore, i have no idea that if i study chemi in malaysia, can i take the postdiploma degree in nie? How to apply for nie?

Originally Posted by mrleafeon

Instead, i should ask how do i check the uni that are recognised by nie postdiploma degree? Or if i have done my phd of chemi in malaysia private uni, will nie accept my phd?

1. Okay, I think you are STILL confused, it is called a POST-GRADUATE DIPLOMA. This means that you take this diploma AFTER you have GRADUATED with a DEGREE. Meaning that you take a degree, say in chemistry, and then take the POST-GRADUATE DIPLOMA.

2. I dont know if you are a PHD holder or a degree holder but I will assume that you have not done your degree yet. Am I right? Or wrong?

3. MOE/NIE is VERY VERY particular with qualifications nowadays. To be on the safe side, only NTU/NUS/SMU or TOP-TIER UK/US ON-CAMPUS degrees are allowed to be accepted. Any malaysian uni would be shot down pretty quickly.

4. You want to be a lecturer or teacher? In singapore, these 2 terms are VERY VERY different. MOE is in charge of TEACHERS, this includes primary, secondary and JC teachers. MOE is NOT in charge of lecturers in university or polytechnics.

5. If you want to be university or polytechnic lecturer, you just get your PHD first then apply directly to these instituitions. DO NOT apply to MOE. These institutions are INDEPENDENT. MOE/NIE are not in charge of who they hire.

So to help you further, I really need to know a few things,
1. do you want to be a chemistry TEACHER or LECTURER?
2. What is your highest qualification now? Where did you obtain it?

[mrleafeon]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. Okay, I think you are STILL confused, it is called a POST-GRADUATE DIPLOMA. This means that you take this diploma AFTER you have GRADUATED with a DEGREE. Meaning that you take a degree, say in chemistry, and then take the POST-GRADUATE DIPLOMA.

2. I dont know if you are a PHD holder or a degree holder but I will assume that you have not done your degree yet. Am I right? Or wrong?

3. MOE/NIE is VERY VERY particular with qualifications nowadays. To be on the safe side, only NTU/NUS/SMU or TOP-TIER UK/US ON-CAMPUS degrees are allowed to be accepted. Any malaysian uni would be shot down pretty quickly.

4. You want to be a lecturer or teacher? In singapore, these 2 terms are VERY VERY different. MOE is in charge of TEACHERS, this includes primary, secondary and JC teachers. MOE is NOT in charge of lecturers in university or polytechnics.

5. If you want to be university or polytechnic lecturer, you just get your PHD first then apply directly to these instituitions. DO NOT apply to MOE. These institutions are INDEPENDENT. MOE/NIE are not in charge of who they hire.

So to help you further, I really need to know a few things,
1. do you want to be a chemistry TEACHER or LECTURER?
2. What is your highest qualification now? Where did you obtain it?

I havent done my degree yet. I just finished my trinity college foundation studies in trinity college. I got a quite good results, aggregate score is 96.
So nus doesnt accept my result. Ntu accepts it but i am required to sit for entrance exam. The exam requires quite a lot of topics, i have very few confidence in succeeding it. I hope to become secondary or jc teachers, teaching few subjects like chemi, bio and chinese, but i prefer chemi the most. Thanks again.