how to become an university lecturer

[mrleafeon]

Btw how much does a lecturer or a jc teacher or a secondary teacher earn per month?any elaun from government?

Originally Posted by mrleafeon

I havent done my degree yet. I just finished my trinity college foundation studies in trinity college. I got a quite good results, aggregate score is 96.
So nus doesnt accept my result. Ntu accepts it but i am required to sit for entrance exam. The exam requires quite a lot of topics, i have very few confidence in succeeding it. I hope to become secondary or jc teachers, teaching few subjects like chemi, bio and chinese, but i prefer chemi the most. Thanks again.

1. I have very low confidence is succeeding.

2. If you hope to be a secondary school teacher, going straight to NIE to do a Bachelor's in Education is enough.

3. If you want to be a JC teacher, you might want to consider going to NTU to get a degree in chemistry first, then followed by going to NIE to do the PGDE.

4. The NTU entrance exam is very very easy, they even have sample papers online. IF you find the entrance exam a challenge, please, dont go to NTU. The difficulty and the amount of subjects covered in the Singapore A-levels is MUCH more extensive than the entrance exam. If you find the entrance exam a challenge, it will be a steep, uphill challenge when you get admitted.

[mrleafeon]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. I have very low confidence is succeeding.

2. If you hope to be a secondary school teacher, going straight to NIE to do a Bachelor's in Education is enough.

3. If you want to be a JC teacher, you might want to consider going to NTU to get a degree in chemistry first, then followed by going to NIE to do the PGDE.

4. The NTU entrance exam is very very easy, they even have sample papers online. IF you find the entrance exam a challenge, please, dont go to NTU. The difficulty and the amount of subjects covered in the Singapore A-levels is MUCH more extensive than the entrance exam. If you find the entrance exam a challenge, it will be a steep, uphill challenge when you get admitted.

I dont understand ur first statement.
Okay I will try my best in the entrance exam. Thanks for ur advice =)

Originally Posted by mrleafeon

I dont understand ur first statement.
Okay I will try my best in the entrance exam. Thanks for ur advice =)

My gosh. For the sake of our future children, I certainly hope that you will not be successful in your endeavors in becoming a teacher. No offense really, but I can see that your reasoning and logic ain't there. Your passion is in the wrong place; you kept asking about salary as a teacher.

In summary, I can conclude NUS is right in not allowing you a place. NTU is probably desperate for more money. You are looking for a job which "interests" you, but must have reasonable pay. And you've yet to even study in Uni, so I wonder how absolute you are of your "interests".

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My gosh. For the sake of our future children, I certainly hope that you will not be successful in your endeavors in becoming a teacher. No offense really, but I can see that your reasoning and logic ain't there. Your passion is in the wrong place; you kept asking about salary as a teacher.

In summary, I can conclude NUS is right in not allowing you a place. NTU is probably desperate for more money. You are looking for a job which "interests" you, but must have reasonable pay. And you've yet to even study in Uni, so I wonder how absolute you are of your "interests".

I've been trying to help him. I really have, but honestly, I dont think he will even make it past NTU's entrance examination. Even if he does get into NTU, I can guarantee that if his standard remains the same without any crash course in improving, he probably wont get past the first 2 years.

Originally Posted by mrleafeon

Btw how much does a lecturer or a jc teacher or a secondary teacher earn per month?any elaun from government?

Look at how he spelt "allowance". Its allowance, not 'elaun' or whatever the hell that is. My god, an prospective undergrad who does not even know how allowance is spelt. What has the world come to.

I pity you, I really do, but Singapore has a really strict criteria. You wont even pass as an average student here. You can try, but you'd be really setting yourself up for failure. I'd advise you to stick to malaysia and teach there if teaching is really your calling.

Either the high standard of education here will force you out or your principal in whatever school you teach will. Either way, it wont be pretty.

I hope you understood whatever I just wrote.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I've been trying to help him. I really have, but honestly, I dont think he will even make it past NTU's entrance examination. Even if he does get into NTU, I can guarantee that if his standard remains the same without any crash course in improving, he probably wont get past the first 2 years.



Look at how he spelt "allowance". Its allowance, not 'elaun' or whatever the hell that is. My god, an prospective undergrad who does not even know how allowance is spelt. What has the world come to.

I pity you, I really do, but Singapore has a really strict criteria. You wont even pass as an average student here. You can try, but you'd be really setting yourself up for failure. I'd advise you to stick to malaysia and teach there if teaching is really your calling.

Either the high standard of education here will force you out or your principal in whatever school you teach will. Either way, it wont be pretty.

I hope you understood whatever I just wrote.

Wow some people on this forum are just plain rude. There's no need to be so condescending.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wow some people on this forum are just plain rude. There's no need to be so condescending.

Im just being realistic. You bring someone's hopes up just for them to get shot down? I dont think that's right.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wow some people on this forum are just plain rude. There's no need to be so condescending.

It's clear that the prospective NTU student has issues with grasping basic concepts in English. Perhaps it's not his first language, but let's keep in mind that the language used to teach students (be it at NTU where he may become a student, or JC where he hopes to teach chemistry) is English. The person who so kindly provided advice was hardly condescending. It's important to know what the challenges are ahead, rather than be set up for failure.

[GenXYZ]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. You applied for NIE Bachelor of Education right? Meaning you are either from poly or JC, am I right?

2. A post-graduate diploma in education(PGDE) is something people that do not have a first degree in education take. Meaning, if I major in economics in NTU, then I want to go into teaching in government schools(pri, sec, JC), then I will need to go to NIE to take the PGDE, a 1-year course, before being eligible to teach.

3. Those who go direct into NIE from JC or poly are majoring in education, they dont take the PGDE. They take the 4 year degree with NIE and straight away teach.

4. You cannot teach in JC unless you have already obtained your first degree not from NIE. Meaning, if I want to teach chemistry in JC, I would need a chemistry degree first from NUS/NTU, and then go on to take a 1-year post-graduate diploma in education from NIE. If your first degree was from NIE, you will not be able to teach in JC. There are a few but its rare. This is because the JC syllabus is pretty advanced and they need someone who actually graduated in the field of which they are teaching. Meaning, only people who take route (2) can teach in JC, but you are now in route (3).

5. If you want to be a university lecturer, you need a Phd. So lets say I want to be an engineering lecturer. I must take my degree in engineering, then take my masters in engineering, then take my Phd in engineering. University lecturers are not from NIE/MOE lol. They are professionals in their fields. So a chemistry lecturer is a chemist, an economics lecturer is an economist.

6. If you want to be a university lecturer, you still can, but you will be a lecturer in NIE, meaning you will teach about education. This will require a similar route to (5), meaning that you will take a Bachelor of Education, followed by a Masters in Education then a Phd in Education.

Hi all,
Quite new here.
I'm offered a teaching scholarship (L) but choosing to go down the path of doing my BSc in Mathematical Sciences in NTU first, then PGDE. Walking down a longer path towards teaching but I want to stay relevant to the outside world (As mentioned by you guys that BEd is relatively useless)

Hope you guys can address this: Is there any way to progress from being a teaching scholar to a uni prof?
I have a interest in Math and I enjoy teaching as well ( giving 1-1 tuition in my own time). But I would also like to do my Masters (and hopefully PhD) in cryptography/ number theory.

Hope you guys can assist! Cheers

Originally Posted by GenXYZ

Hi all,
Quite new here.
I'm offered a teaching scholarship (L) but choosing to go down the path of doing my BSc in Mathematical Sciences in NTU first, then PGDE. Walking down a longer path towards teaching but I want to stay relevant to the outside world (As mentioned by you guys that BEd is relatively useless)

Hope you guys can address this: Is there any way to progress from being a teaching scholar to a uni prof?
I have a interest in Math and I enjoy teaching as well ( giving 1-1 tuition in my own time). But I would also like to do my Masters (and hopefully PhD) in cryptography/ number theory.

Hope you guys can assist! Cheers

There is no such linear progression. Being a uni prof, majority of your workload will be research, not teaching. So being an MOE teacher does not help you become a uni prof at all. What you need is a Phd. The path for most top researchers is this:

4 year Bsc(graduate with first class)>Phd 5-6 years(publish 1 or 2 papers while you're at it)> Tenure-track Asst Prof(8-years, publish a lot)> Assoc Prof(Publish more, undetermined number of years) > Full tenured prof.

As you can see, there is no where that being an MOE teacher fits. Being an MOE teacher means no time or means to do rigorous academic research. It will be faster if you just do your Phd right after you graduate instead of working at MOE.