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Old 15-09-2023, 05:57 PM
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Default Bao ka liao

Techies, do yr RO/ISM make you all bao ka liao?
E.g. PM do BA and vice versa? Funny ley like that how to focus on competencies and do what I want to do ley

Then hor, what should I do if RO continue to sit on things even when timeline is going to slip…?

Very curious to know other techies exp

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Old 16-09-2023, 01:18 AM
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Techies, do yr RO/ISM make you all bao ka liao?
E.g. PM do BA and vice versa? Funny ley like that how to focus on competencies and do what I want to do ley

Then hor, what should I do if RO continue to sit on things even when timeline is going to slip…?

Very curious to know other techies exp
You based in GovTech or other agencies?

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Old 16-09-2023, 01:59 AM
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Diam diam la NUS CS grads

Just accept that NUS CS grads are inferior to foreign uni grads
Uptron Uni: 1 - National University of Sex: 0

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Old 16-09-2023, 04:03 PM
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Techies, do yr RO/ISM make you all bao ka liao?
E.g. PM do BA and vice versa? Funny ley like that how to focus on competencies and do what I want to do ley

Then hor, what should I do if RO continue to sit on things even when timeline is going to slip…?

Very curious to know other techies exp
What's wrong with having PM take up BA responsibilities? Normal in enterprise settings. Don't like it, go join big tech.
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Old 16-09-2023, 04:50 PM
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What's wrong with having PM take up BA responsibilities? Normal in enterprise settings. Don't like it, go join big tech.
You must be newbie, strawberry generation or based on hq. There is something called DFS. Only hq don’t practice.
There should be segregation of roles to deepe your competencies.
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Old 16-09-2023, 11:52 PM
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that is so unfair!!!!! some of the indeed people are fresh grads with <6 months of working experience, and come to GovTech, their level is higher than those that work for >2 years in GovTech!!!!!!!
Aiyo why so buay song about the ex-indeed folks? I know quite a number of people from both indeed and govtech. Not in either company myself but have interviewed people from both groups before.

You think that govtech did them a charity, but really, these are talented people who could have gone else where if they wanted to. They can contemplate leaving ... because they can.

If you think that's unfair - could you have gone somewhere better? The shitty answer is that you probably have no ability to do so. Easier to blame others for your situation, but it's not going to help you.

Is it entirely your fault for sucking after all these years? No - not at all. Govtech processes simply sucks. Your career progression is based on "years of experience" rather than an individual's ability. What incentive is there for people to go the extra mile? You compete with your peers for a position in the performance stack rank - what incentive is there for you to help your coworkers be better?

I think that new processes, new culture - driven by orgs like ogp and ex-indeed - will paint the new path forward. It is an investment that will benefit everyone in govtech.

Not happy - leave loh.
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Old 17-09-2023, 12:36 AM
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Aiyo why so buay song about the ex-indeed folks? I know quite a number of people from both indeed and govtech. Not in either company myself but have interviewed people from both groups before.

You think that govtech did them a charity, but really, these are talented people who could have gone else where if they wanted to. They can contemplate leaving ... because they can.

If you think that's unfair - could you have gone somewhere better? The shitty answer is that you probably have no ability to do so. Easier to blame others for your situation, but it's not going to help you.

Is it entirely your fault for sucking after all these years? No - not at all. Govtech processes simply sucks. Your career progression is based on "years of experience" rather than an individual's ability. What incentive is there for people to go the extra mile? You compete with your peers for a position in the performance stack rank - what incentive is there for you to help your coworkers be better?

I think that new processes, new culture - driven by orgs like ogp and ex-indeed - will paint the new path forward. It is an investment that will benefit everyone in govtech.

Not happy - leave loh.
lmao ogp and ex indeed. happy to see what these indeed ppl do thats so great. govtech sells its ppl a career path and then shits on it when hiring indeed ppl. so what this says is govtech also thinks its ppl cmi and everyone shld just leave, both for good and bad ppl.

govtech hr tryin to dmg control huh
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Old 17-09-2023, 12:47 AM
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Moral of the story is. don't ya ya papaya

what goes around comes around

all the techie start ups like indeed last time think they hot s__t get high pay so eng. truth is high pay only because their start up burn rate is high due to low interest environment of venture capital seeking quick returns.

they dont actually produce anything marketable. now all homeless need to beg boring ol govtech for job like refugeee.
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Someone should send this to LMW and let him talk it out in parliament...
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Someone should send this to LMW and let him talk it out in parliament...
lol no one cares. nerds and codemonkeys are not impt in sinkieland. only doktor lawler and bankers r impt. more cheap FT coders and techies to replace sinkies even better
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