ST Electronics

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No that is not true. There's alot of misinformation in this thread about ST Engineering and mostly by contract staff who only see the tip of the iceberg. Fact that ST Engineering is very diverse in culture and practice muddies the water alot.

For perm staff promotion it depends on performance and quota available. There are cmi perm staff who are stuck in the same grade for 8 to 10 years.

Most of the engineers are promoted once every 3 to 5 years as long as they get an average performance.
Unfortunately there are some staff who are stuck in the same job grade for more than 5 years too. These are the staff who might not be able to make it in terms or performance or their department is not one of those who promote every 3 years, think of corporate functions. There are also some who are hardworking enough but unfortunately not appreciated.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your appointment will commence at a basic salary of S$xxxx per month which
is inclusive of the monthly variable component amounting to 10% of your latest
monthly basic salary at this time. Please note that this variable component may be
reviewed over time.

curryneh
i am getting lesser than the % on contract, who can i seek help?

You can check with the TA who hired you. They should have gone through the offer letter with you before you sign.

Originally Posted by Chua

Does ST put a lot of emphasis on paper qualifications? A headhunting agency called me up for a job 2 weeks ago about an assistant engineer/senior tech position. I hope I did the right thing by listening to my friend to decline the agency. I am already engineer 2 in a MNC.

My friend told me that he responded to an agency's invitation and went for an interview in ST about 4 years ago. He is about 10 years older than me and I know he has more than 10 years of experience currently managing projects in many parts of the world. He was promoted to a program manager in another american MNC like last year during COVID and he is certified PMP but he only has a diploma. But he was only offered a position of an assistant engineer and the interviewer even got confused because he could not get over the part of a diploma holder being a project manager. But he did say that the interviewer was respectful though.

Unfortunately. Yes.
Education is a barrier for those who have skill sets but not the qualifications in ST.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Unfortunately. Yes.
Education is a barrier for those who have skill sets but not the qualifications in ST.

Must be fair to those who took their degree. You can also think back, if a degree holder cannot promote faster than diploma holder then why i take a degree for? If you want to promote them take a degree loh. Do you think 10 years experience in what mnc as a diploma holder can be better than a degree holder even he is a fresh grad? That post shows how disconnected he is from the real world.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Must be fair to those who took their degree. You can also think back, if a degree holder cannot promote faster than diploma holder then why i take a degree for? If you want to promote them take a degree loh. Do you think 10 years experience in what mnc as a diploma holder can be better than a degree holder even he is a fresh grad? That post shows how disconnected he is from the real world.

Diploma really can jiak sai...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Diploma really can jiak sai...

Ya. Funny people think they can promote with a diploma only. 10 year experience so what? Talk so much what value add. Last Time got 1 interviewee got what six sic mah or don't know what taekwondo green belt want to apply for manager but when i ask why no degree, he give what stupid reason does not value add. Dun have means dun have. I dun care what value or how much money he make for the company or how many project he run before lah. No degree do you think he can do this? Big cannon fairy also must be realistic.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ya. Funny people think they can promote with a diploma only. 10 year experience so what? Talk so much what value add. Last Time got 1 interviewee got what six sic mah or don't know what taekwondo green belt want to apply for manager but when i ask why no degree, he give what stupid reason does not value add. Dun have means dun have. I dun care what value or how much money he make for the company or how many project he run before lah. No degree do you think he can do this? Big cannon fairy also must be realistic.

If diplomas were all you needed for a job all the universities can close down liao.

These diploma holders really need to get their heads out of their a$$e$

It is not the paper qualification. It is the value you bring to the organization.
Anyone can become the chief if you are able to prove value. The paper is supposed to show a certain level of competence but not the guarantee of value. Your track record aka experience is the evidence of value. Because you prove you have done it before. The paper is just one of the means to help you attain the targeted value. So if you think the degree/diploma is the final stop of your value creation, then you are not value adding and perhaps best suited to stay in ST because you won't survive the real world.

If you have degree + masters, you should be able to do any job, even if you don't have relevant exp in that industry.

For eg, a SAF general with MBA can run shipping company, media conglomerate, early childhood development agency, etc. At the end of the day, the org cares most about the paper you bring to the table. Which is why during interview, the first thing ppl talk about is their degree and where they go it from.

Tired. Really tired working in STE..