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Unregistered 24-12-2021 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 194936)
get the tender .

No they dun need to get any tender, like I say before, the job will be auto given by mindef.

Why they need oscp.... Is to look good to the big boss Nia.

You think you got whole team of fresh grad look good?

Unregistered 24-12-2021 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 194949)
OSCP can get tender ?

Or need convert to crest ?

Tbh, there 2 group of ppl in the department. First group is the slacker who jlb, try to Siam all the work and NV study or do the certification end up no where to go and comfort zone at st.

Second group of ppl work hard to escape from st. they get Crest is to look for job else where

Unregistered 25-12-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 194920)
Isc2, isaca, offsec, Crest and Cisco decent cert will have. Those lower end de ccna, oswp and etc dun have lor.

If you have oscp and clearance, not hard to get in lo.

each cert + 500 or what ?

like 3 ISC2 and 2 OSCP OSWE so i get 500x 5 extra or not

Unregistered 25-12-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 195024)
each cert + 500 or what ?

like 3 ISC2 and 2 OSCP OSWE so i get 500x 5 extra or not

Scarli before u join, already all included in salary, in e end tio faked. Lmao

Unregistered 25-12-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 195024)
each cert + 500 or what ?

like 3 ISC2 and 2 OSCP OSWE so i get 500x 5 extra or not

Not all is 500, some is 1k, some is 500, some is 200 and some is 100.

Got, but you cert need to be relavant to your work. Ir if you got oscp but doing risk then dun have lor.

Unregistered 25-12-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 195040)
Scarli before u join, already all included in salary, in e end tio faked. Lmao

No wor, the cert compensation can only apply after you joined but they will backpay you after that

Unregistered 25-12-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 195063)
No wor, the cert compensation can only apply after you joined but they will backpay you after that

Bto which certs worth 500 and 1k? Can list out? Gumxia

Unregistered 04-01-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 195068)
Bto which certs worth 500 and 1k? Can list out? Gumxia

Your Kindergarten cert and PSLE cert la. 1k each.

Unregistered 06-01-2022 08:33 AM

Funny sia
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196375)
Your Kindergarten cert and PSLE cert la. 1k each.

I show birth cert min 10k liao.

Unregistered 06-01-2022 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 195068)
Bto which certs worth 500 and 1k? Can list out? Gumxia

no point listing out. no one bother to take cert la if you point to stay.

If you have some of the cert that is worth 1k or 500, most likely, you wun join ST or you will join other place which got better benefit.

Unregistered 06-01-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196576)
no point listing out. no one bother to take cert la if you point to stay.

If you have some of the cert that is worth 1k or 500, most likely, you wun join ST or you will join other place which got better benefit.

Got cert got what use.
Your immediate manager also no cert and clueless. Your manager boss just as clueless.
All those senior management all no cert.
No education cert. Management also don't have.

That's why this company is full of politics.

Unregistered 06-01-2022 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196612)
Got cert got what use.
Your immediate manager also no cert and clueless. Your manager boss just as clueless.
All those senior management all no cert.
No education cert. Management also don't have.

That's why this company is full of politics.

most from army what. so ppl farm some cert to get out lor

Unregistered 07-01-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196612)
Got cert got what use.
Your immediate manager also no cert and clueless. Your manager boss just as clueless.
All those senior management all no cert.
No education cert. Management also don't have.

That's why this company is full of politics.

Not really, over my department. The m2 aka principles engineer still got cert.

Only the big bosses/department head dun no parachute in from which camp de.

Unregistered 07-01-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196612)
Got cert got what use.
Your immediate manager also no cert and clueless. Your manager boss just as clueless.
All those senior management all no cert.
No education cert. Management also don't have.

That's why this company is full of politics.

they scare those with cert take their rice bowl always 打压 those with cert and force them to leave on their own accord

Unregistered 07-01-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196705)
Not really, over my department. The m2 aka principles engineer still got cert.

Only the big bosses/department head dun no parachute in from which camp de.

Alot head of signal come out to IT field be director one

Unregistered 07-01-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196738)
Alot head of signal come out to IT field be director one

that is the way

Unregistered 08-01-2022 10:55 AM

yes, quite a few army high post retire and join ST....last time my boss is ex-colonel, really dun know anything outside, except army staff

Unregistered 10-01-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 196871)
yes, quite a few army high post retire and join ST....last time my boss is ex-colonel, really dun know anything outside, except army staff

ST is never the same after the SAF general joined as President.

Unregistered 10-01-2022 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 194893)
Just curious, what other certs will they recognise for the certification allowance? I’ve the OSCP, $500 per month extra for the cert seems like a decent deal.

Every cert +500? Sign me up

Unregistered 10-01-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 197080)
ST is never the same after the SAF general joined as President.

So better now?

Unregistered 11-01-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 197092)
So better now?

Unfortunately, that is not the case. Many of whom I know left within a year or two after he parachuted in. The only people who did not and have not contemplated leaving are the senior management afaik.

Unregistered 15-01-2022 11:14 PM

How much is promotional increment from E5 to E6 and E6 to M1?

Unregistered 16-01-2022 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 197809)
How much is promotional increment from E5 to E6 and E6 to M1?

$200. 10char.

Unregistered 16-01-2022 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 197825)
$200. 10char.

yup dont expect too much

Unregistered 17-01-2022 05:01 PM

Performance grading
 
Hi anyone can share whats the performance grading and its payout in st engineering? Also, what is the average grading?

Unregistered 17-01-2022 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198086)
Hi anyone can share whats the performance grading and its payout in st engineering? Also, what is the average grading?

band 1,2 and 3

not much diff.

average ppl is 2 nia, unless u are the boss dog then 1.

they wan to bell curve, so normally confirm got ppl get 3. They will alway give it to the ppl with no clearance one la or ppl they dun like.

Unregistered 17-01-2022 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198112)
band 1,2 and 3

not much diff.

average ppl is 2 nia, unless u are the boss dog then 1.

they wan to bell curve, so normally confirm got ppl get 3. They will alway give it to the ppl with no clearance one la or ppl they dun like.


Thanks for sharing. If get band 3, its a sign to quit?

Able to share how many months bonus for each respective band?

Unregistered 17-01-2022 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 194498)
no lei, but people in the office tell me not to expect much bonus and increment. i heard the previous yr got pay freeze.

just curious.. how much bonus did everyone get during COVID?

Unregistered 18-01-2022 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198139)
Thanks for sharing. If get band 3, its a sign to quit?

Able to share how many months bonus for each respective band?

Nah, ST is Iron Rice bowl, they wun fire you. You are just getting a 3 base on the boss mood and bell curve.

I not sure sure about brand 1 and 3 cos NV kena them before. In my department, for brand 1, I NV heard anyone in my department got it(maybe given to the management?) and brand 3 will not be given as long as you got cat 2 and above clearance.

Anyway, brand 2 only give me 3-4% increment and close to 1 m bonus last yr.

Unregistered 18-01-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 197809)
How much is promotional increment from E5 to E6 and E6 to M1?

Pathetic. Normally ranges from 5-10%.

Unregistered 18-01-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198233)
Pathetic. Normally ranges from 5-10%.

Speaking from experience, about 8%

Unregistered 18-01-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198211)
Nah, ST is Iron Rice bowl, they wun fire you. You are just getting a 3 base on the boss mood and bell curve.

I not sure sure about brand 1 and 3 cos NV kena them before. In my department, for brand 1, I NV heard anyone in my department got it(maybe given to the management?) and brand 3 will not be given as long as you got cat 2 and above clearance.

Anyway, brand 2 only give me 3-4% increment and close to 1 m bonus last yr.

My colleague worked hard but gotten band 3 for two years straight. The boss doesn't have a choice, someone in the team has to get a band 3. He just suay I guess, become the sacrificial lamb. Shortly after, he left the company.

Unregistered 18-01-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198248)
My colleague worked hard but gotten band 3 for two years straight. The boss doesn't have a choice, someone in the team has to get a band 3. He just suay I guess, become the sacrificial lamb. Shortly after, he left the company.

That sucks big time. This bell curve really ****

Unregistered 18-01-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198211)
Nah, ST is Iron Rice bowl, they wun fire you. You are just getting a 3 base on the boss mood and bell curve.

I not sure sure about brand 1 and 3 cos NV kena them before. In my department, for brand 1, I NV heard anyone in my department got it(maybe given to the management?) and brand 3 will not be given as long as you got cat 2 and above clearance.

Anyway, brand 2 only give me 3-4% increment and close to 1 m bonus last yr.

But i guess getting Band 3 will likely hinder promotion prospects am i right? Especially if the person is not well liked by the boss and the boss already is prejudice against this staff..

Unregistered 18-01-2022 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198252)
But i guess getting Band 3 will likely hinder promotion prospects am i right? Especially if the person is not well liked by the boss and the boss already is prejudice against this staff..

nah, even you get brand 2 also dun mean you can promote, i see ppl stuck in the same rank for 5 yr and more.

1) you have to be the boss dog.
2) need to have a empty space on top, most likely they hire from outside then promote inside.
3) even internal promote, will promote the scholar > Dog > commoner

you wan promotion prospect then dun join st, st is more for those people who want to just yolo and get they end of the month pay. promotion or not they dun care.

Unregistered 19-01-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198211)
Nah, ST is Iron Rice bowl, they wun fire you. You are just getting a 3 base on the boss mood and bell curve.

I not sure sure about brand 1 and 3 cos NV kena them before. In my department, for brand 1, I NV heard anyone in my department got it(maybe given to the management?) and brand 3 will not be given as long as you got cat 2 and above clearance.

Anyway, brand 2 only give me 3-4% increment and close to 1 m bonus last yr.

Not bad for 3 to 4% for a "2" grading. Previously with the old grading, my former division B and C grades only got 1 to 2% increment before COVID.

Unregistered 19-01-2022 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198384)
Not bad for 3 to 4% for a "2" grading. Previously with the old grading, my former division B and C grades only got 1 to 2% increment before COVID.

my fren jump out got 28% more.....

Unregistered 20-01-2022 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198430)
my fren jump out got 28% more.....

Quite curious, where did your friend jump to? If it's too sensitive then perhaps just the sector/job description will do

Unregistered 21-01-2022 05:41 AM

Cyber. He jump from 4k plus to near 6k

Unregistered 21-01-2022 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 198676)
Cyber. He jump from 4k plus to near 6k

After how long at ST?


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