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Unregistered 21-08-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122615)
Same here, joined this year at M4 around $14K/month.

That's higher than the norm. May I ask your years of experience.

Unregistered 22-08-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Taxiplz (Post 122767)
Got offered 3.7 for IT engineer role with PB but no AWS perm role, should i take?

fresh private uni grad with no exp


Your AWS is so called counted in your 3.7k already.. so actually your basic maybe 3.3 to 3.4k

Unregistered 22-08-2019 11:40 AM

For awareness.
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 118255)
Engineer E5 Grade, Entry Level, ST Aero
FCH ST Scholar 2018, 4k basic
2nd Upper non-scholar 2017, 3.7k basic
2nd Lower non-scholar 2017, 3.4k basic
Default 16 days annual leave
13th month bonus + at least 1.8 mth of performance bonus (depending on appraisal)
Share scheme at (max at 10% of basic * 0.5) per mth, 2nd year onwards
National day bonus at 800 per yr, 2nd year onwards
Corporate bonus at 0.2 - ?? mth per year
Estimated annual gross salary at about 59,000, 2nd upper non-scholar, entry level.
Annual increment at 1 2% of basic.
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Engineer, Grade 12/13, Entry Level, Statutory Board
2nd Upper non scholar, 4.6k basic.
Pass Degree non-scholar from reputable/good/local university, 3.8k. ICT related at 4k. (Info from national news, April 2016, from DPM, regarding all engineer given a 20% boost in gov sector)
Engineering department additional bonus at 800/mth, same across all grade.
Default 18 days annual leave, 2 days MC without MC annually, family care leave 2 days annually.
13th month bonus
Mobile and broadband allowance at 85/mth
Mid year bonus at 0.5 1.5mth (rate announced on national news annually)
End year bonus at 0.5 1.5mth (rate announced on national news annually)
Performance bonus at 2 - ?? mth (depending on appraisal)
Corporate bonus at 0.2 - ?? mth
IT related allowance 200/yr
Device allowance 200/3yrs
Flexible benefits allowance at 600 cash/yr
HR quoted estimated annual gross salary at about 99,680, 2nd upper non-scholar, entry level.
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Info accurate as of 2018. =)

For awareness. 59,000 fresh grad gross annual package vs 99,000. Govt's Engineers are getting abt 40,000 more annually. This govt link company ST is obviously shortchanging their engineers. Such a dishonest company by not paying the market rate despite having such a good stock market performance and annual gross profits.

Unregistered 30-09-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122793)
For awareness. 59,000 fresh grad gross annual package vs 99,000. Govt's Engineers are getting abt 40,000 more annually. This govt link company ST is obviously shortchanging their engineers. Such a dishonest company by not paying the market rate despite having such a good stock market performance and annual gross profits.

it's not company short changing engineer, but gov engineer overpaid. Can the gov engineer command these salaries outside, putting aside the temporary bubble caused by unprofitable unicorns in sg

xiaopangbronco 30-09-2019 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 123774)
it's not company short changing engineer, but gov engineer overpaid. Can the gov engineer command these salaries outside, putting aside the temporary bubble caused by unprofitable unicorns in sg

thats the truth. other than the big giants out there like google, apple etc, most companmies outside are paying these similar rates. govt salaries are way inflated

Unregistered 30-09-2019 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 123774)
it's not company short changing engineer, but gov engineer overpaid. Can the gov engineer command these salaries outside, putting aside the temporary bubble caused by unprofitable unicorns in sg

But our DPM in April 2016 said that engineers in govt sector are underpaid, and therefore given the 20% adjustment/boost to match the market rate across all grade, in June 2016. Govt's data cannot be wrong.

Previously, engineers in govt sector and Govt-Linked Company (GLC) like ST are paid about the same annually. And looking at the annual leave, and the bonus components.. no comments. lol

For info, another GLC like DBS are paying their engineers the market rate annually, unlike ST.

Unregistered 01-10-2019 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 118255)
Engineer E5 Grade, Entry Level, ST Aero
FCH ST Scholar 2018, 4k basic
2nd Upper non-scholar 2017, 3.7k basic
2nd Lower non-scholar 2017, 3.4k basic
Default 16 days annual leave
13th month bonus + at least 1.8 mth of performance bonus (depending on appraisal)
Share scheme at (max at 10% of basic * 0.5) per mth, 2nd year onwards
National day bonus at 800 per yr, 2nd year onwards
Corporate bonus at 0.2 - ?? mth per year
Estimated annual gross salary at about 59,000, 2nd upper non-scholar, entry level.
Annual increment at 1 2% of basic.
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Engineer, Grade 12/13, Entry Level, Statutory Board
2nd Upper non scholar, 4.6k basic.
Pass Degree non-scholar from reputable/good/local university, 3.8k. ICT related at 4k. (Info from national news, April 2016, from DPM, regarding all engineer given a 20% boost in gov sector)
Engineering department additional bonus at 800/mth, same across all grade.
Default 18 days annual leave, 2 days MC without MC annually, family care leave 2 days annually.
13th month bonus
Mobile and broadband allowance at 85/mth
Mid year bonus at 0.5 1.5mth (rate announced on national news annually)
End year bonus at 0.5 1.5mth (rate announced on national news annually)
Performance bonus at 2 - ?? mth (depending on appraisal)
Corporate bonus at 0.2 - ?? mth
IT related allowance 200/yr
Device allowance 200/3yrs
Flexible benefits allowance at 600 cash/yr
HR quoted estimated annual gross salary at about 99,680, 2nd upper non-scholar, entry level.
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Info accurate as of 2018. =)

How did HR estimate 99680... base salary of 52k (13 month included) with say 6 months of bonus assuming best case for all senarios, all in all would be <80k.

Unregistered 01-10-2019 09:24 PM

Was offered $6.8k, M1 grade a month ago.

Nowadays, M1 grade range so big?

Unregistered 01-10-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 123791)
Was offered $6.8k, M1 grade a month ago.

Nowadays, M1 grade range so big?

Eh, what range you referring to? If you are an Engineer in ST and you follow the above formula linearly, You should realise that you are getting an estimated fresh grad first class honors local/good university salary with NS (market rate as per govt's data; after 20% salary adjustment in June 2016).

For sharing, E5 is the starting grade for local uni fresh grad in ST. Next is E6 and then followed by M1. The title is as such, Engineer (E5) -> Senior Engineer (E6) -> Assistant Principle Engineer (M1/M2).

For Govt's Stat Board, it is Engineer (grade 12/13) uni fresh grad -> Executive Engineer -> Senior Engineer.

Also, govt's yearly increment is way higher than ST's 1- 2% annually.

Unregistered 01-10-2019 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 123792)
Eh, what range you referring to? If you are an Engineer in ST and you follow the above formula linearly, You should realise that you are getting an estimated fresh grad first class honors local/good university salary with NS (market rate as per govt's data; after 20% salary adjustment in June 2016).

For sharing, E5 is the starting grade for local uni fresh grad in ST. Next is E6 and then followed by M1. The title is as such, Engineer (E5) -> Senior Engineer (E6) -> Assistant Principle Engineer (M1/M2).

For Govt's Stat Board, it is Engineer (grade 12/13) uni fresh grad -> Executive Engineer -> Senior Engineer.

Also, govt's yearly increment is way higher than ST's 1- 2% annually.


I'm referring to M1 salary range. Apparently 6.8k is still within M1 salary range.


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