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Old 11-03-2021, 10:18 AM
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Yeah ST is hiring now...
Which other company is actively hiring during covid..

Please join us. We need people to meet deadline...

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Old 11-03-2021, 10:27 AM
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Yeah ST is hiring now...
Which other company is actively hiring during covid..

Please join us. We need people to meet deadline...
Safety distancing ambassador and tray return officer

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Old 11-03-2021, 01:21 PM
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Safety distancing ambassador and tray return officer
I don't see anymore safety distancing police liao.

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Old 11-03-2021, 01:38 PM
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I don't see anymore safety distancing police liao.
Open your eyes bigger, many of them still patrolling
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i jumped from ST to CS few years back

pay jumped too, never look back once
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Old 11-03-2021, 03:18 PM
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Not all divisions or business units are the same la.
When people think of ST Engineering, they just think of defence work...

Got mrt got bus got research lab...
The retirement sentiment maybe true in the defence side but other sides still have exciting and real world and fun challenges..
The lack of manpower, high turn over rate and crazy cost cutting is applicable across all divisions.
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Old 11-03-2021, 03:30 PM
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I'm aware of other organisations program or plan to recruit... Or internship etc.

Somehow, even I worked in ST. I'm unaware of any initiative to recruit young blood...

Whenever conversations of fresh grad come up with management's.
It's usually...

Me: we need people with this specific skill sets to work on this project.
Management : so many? Can cut down just 1 or 2?
Me: the deadline very tight and the LD cost is high. Better we have some redundancy if only high 1 or 2 and they leave before the project due date.. It's very hard to retrain.
Management: how about 3? Hire 2 seniors 1 fresh grad as back up.
Me: we need 5 highly functional programmers. Can't afford to have a fresh grad. Learning curve is steep and time line is short..
Management : fresh grad cheaper..

In the end, I quit. From last I heard the management in charge of that prokect was promoted to head another business unit so he abandoned the project. A few others also left. So the new manager hired to clean up this mess actively hiring now. But it seems like they can't find people.

Oh what a surprise...

If you join ST. Be prepared to accept
1) low pay
2) no support or help from seniors
3) change of management every 1 or 2 years when their kpi already fulfilled
4) old technologies
5) lots of red tape
6) nothing to learn.
7) even learn liao only can be used in ST, can't transfer to other...

I suggest you Google those big name player in cyberscruity and join them instead. Then got the experience, skillet then only come to ST to retire.

ST is not pioneer in cybersecurity...

Everyone doing cyber security, senior management set direction want to setup cyber security division.. But existing staff all don't have this skill. Just hire outsource to fill the gap.

That's how ST works. Really a retirement village
At least your management still negotiate. For me, I asked for one fresh grad because I can easily do knowledge transfer. Reject immediately. Tell me no more headcount, no budget but happily assign me to do researching and testing of new methodologies and supporting >5 projects.

End up I also left. As there was no one to take over me, my tasks were split among the rest of the team, giving them back their actual responsibilities. The research part was given to their favourite newly promoted high-flier FCH M1.

After I left I realised how much I was underpaid. My responsibilities were all from M2 and M1 engineers but I was paid as E5. My new position isn't the highest paying out there, but I know I'm definitely paid more fairly than before at ST.

These old timers refused to plan for succession. One day when many of them were to retire, there will definitely be chaos because they have to either parachute army officers in or promote current staff to middle and senior management without much experience. Probably they will solve the issue with another reorganisation. It will also be the time they wake up from their cushy jobs.
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i jumped from ST to CS few years back

pay jumped too, never look back once
Bluff la there is a thread that says how CS have no progression...
Low pay...
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The lack of manpower, high turn over rate and crazy cost cutting is applicable across all divisions.
But ST still managed to net profit every year including covid year.
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At least your management still negotiate. For me, I asked for one fresh grad because I can easily do knowledge transfer. Reject immediately. Tell me no more headcount, no budget but happily assign me to do researching and testing of new methodologies and supporting >5 projects.

End up I also left. As there was no one to take over me, my tasks were split among the rest of the team, giving them back their actual responsibilities. The research part was given to their favourite newly promoted high-flier FCH M1.

After I left I realised how much I was underpaid. My responsibilities were all from M2 and M1 engineers but I was paid as E5. My new position isn't the highest paying out there, but I know I'm definitely paid more fairly than before at ST.

These old timers refused to plan for succession. One day when many of them were to retire, there will definitely be chaos because they have to either parachute army officers in or promote current staff to middle and senior management without much experience. Probably they will solve the issue with another reorganisation. It will also be the time they wake up from their cushy jobs.
You dumb la.
Should just act average and slack then you won't get much work.
You hero want to show skills. Obviously they will give to people with skills.

Keep to survival in ST is don't be below average. Just average can liao.
Don't overwork. Then just be nice to your old seniors can liao. You can't get promoted with intellect and hardwodk.
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