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Unregistered 07-01-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152813)
Oh so that's what people do inside the toilet cubicle hogging it...
But it's only 3 minutes.

Then what?

No la. People hide inside toilet cubicle put the lid down sit there and take a nap.
That's why they inside so long.

Unregistered 07-01-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152814)
No la. People hide inside toilet cubicle put the lid down sit there and take a nap.
That's why they inside so long.

Smell others people urine and shot.don't understand the logic of this people.
Tired then sleep earlier don't stay up until after midnight then come to work sleepy and ****.

Unregistered 07-01-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152839)
Smell others people urine and shot.don't understand the logic of this people.
Tired then sleep earlier don't stay up until after midnight then come to work sleepy and ****.

No choice, sometimes have to work late until after midnight. Next day report back office same time. If this continued for some time, the staff will suffer burnout.

Unregistered 07-01-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152849)
No choice, sometimes have to work late until after midnight. Next day report back office same time. If this continued for some time, the staff will suffer burnout.

Sure bo.
I see ST employee come to work like 930 am go home 530 pm.

Good life sia

Unregistered 08-01-2021 12:12 AM

i have friends who in ST 4 years to 5 years still E5....their first job also...moral of the story, dun choose ST as 1st job

Unregistered 08-01-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152876)
i have friends who in ST 4 years to 5 years still E5....their first job also...moral of the story, dun choose ST as 1st job

Aiyah.
There is no progression in ST cause there is salary grade for that.

Same what. Some senior also stuck at E6 for 6 years before promoted to M1.
Then M1 also stuck for long long.

Basically ST follow this salary grade etc is dsta one isn't it.

If I set up my company, I'll have salary grade to match number of years.

So 2 years E5 will auto go up E6. Then 2 to 3 years E7 then 2 to 3 years @E8.

Etx

Basically once you join ST you're stuck at your rank that's it.
I've seen those 4 to 5 years programmer E5 much better than those hired directly come in E6...

Anyway ST is not a software company. It never was and will never be.
Their business are totally different.
Just that some solutions requires software...

Which is why software developer are 3rd class citizen.
2nd class citizen are project managers all the connection manage dsta, mindef etc.
The 1st class citizen are those 2nd class citizen stayed long enough to know the culture get promoted to director, avp, vp outlast and outplay the politics.

You'll see the senior management keep going higher and higher with each reorg.
You don't see the bottom moving anywehree. Except laterally to support more project.

The top also know this. That's why they always try to give monetary reward like national day bonus etc....
Make employees happy.

But new leadership don't care about this thing. Only their new position and power. Everything lean and mean now. Cut cut cut. But their pay getting more. Not cut.

Unregistered 08-01-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152881)
Aiyah.
There is no progression in ST cause there is salary grade for that.

Same what. Some senior also stuck at E6 for 6 years before promoted to M1.
Then M1 also stuck for long long.

Basically ST follow this salary grade etc is dsta one isn't it.

If I set up my company, I'll have salary grade to match number of years.

So 2 years E5 will auto go up E6. Then 2 to 3 years E7 then 2 to 3 years @E8.

Etx

Basically once you join ST you're stuck at your rank that's it.
I've seen those 4 to 5 years programmer E5 much better than those hired directly come in E6...

Anyway ST is not a software company. It never was and will never be.
Their business are totally different.
Just that some solutions requires software...

Which is why software developer are 3rd class citizen.
2nd class citizen are project managers all the connection manage dsta, mindef etc.
The 1st class citizen are those 2nd class citizen stayed long enough to know the culture get promoted to director, avp, vp outlast and outplay the politics.

You'll see the senior management keep going higher and higher with each reorg.
You don't see the bottom moving anywehree. Except laterally to support more project.

The top also know this. That's why they always try to give monetary reward like national day bonus etc....
Make employees happy.

But new leadership don't care about this thing. Only their new position and power. Everything lean and mean now. Cut cut cut. But their pay getting more. Not cut.

What's the salary range for M2?

Unregistered 08-01-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152850)
Sure bo.
I see ST employee come to work like 930 am go home 530 pm.

Good life sia

Not all divisions in ST are equal, at least for those M1 and below.

Unregistered 08-01-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152876)
i have friends who in ST 4 years to 5 years still E5....their first job also...moral of the story, dun choose ST as 1st job

I joined at ST as my third job and was placed as outsourced staff. E5 all the way until I left. Those who are bosses pets got converted and started promoting every 2-3 years. So for the time most stayed as E5 or E6, the pets are already at M1 or M2.

Unregistered 08-01-2021 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152887)
I joined at ST as my third job and was placed as outsourced staff. E5 all the way until I left. Those who are bosses pets got converted and started promoting every 2-3 years. So for the time most stayed as E5 or E6, the pets are already at M1 or M2.

Why didn't you become a pet yourself?

The division I was with. All the outsource stayed as E5 for 4 to 5 years.
Only perm staff get promoted. Those E6 promoted to M1.

Those M1 promoted to M2.
Those M3 also promoted to M4.

All during the same time.
So don't be outsource in this company.
If you are outsource in this company, you are basically their slaves.
If things go wrong. Your contract Terminated.
If you do your job the project go successful with no hiccup. The perm staff M1 and M2 get promoted again.

It's very weird this company. Also end of 2019 senior managemenpt promise all outsource staff who have served more than 4 years will be "guess what" converted to "contract" lol.

I followed up with my boss early 2020 before covid. He said no budget to convert me to contract. Cause project haven't come in. Not signed etc.
Then covid hit. Prokect postponed I WFH.

Now phase 3 come back. All forgotten.
While my then boss senior principal engineer now already become director in jan 2021

Ywah everything ask me for update. Progress etc.
When I ask back then how is my employment status update etc.

All kind of bullshit.

Then behind my back my boss tell other boss that his division finance in trouble how to convert outsource staff to perm. So? Isn't that your job as director?

If the division don't make money. Can't survive. The first one to go is and should be the director cause they are the most expensive and they didn't deliver their job what...

No... It's the bottom E5 outsource that doesn't get their contract renewed.
Not to mention perm staff work every few year extra annual leave.

Where is my annual leave increment? They say already factored in the salary.
Where? Show me the calculation. My conferment yearly is just barely 2.5% no promotion.
What extra annual leave already count inside salary?

This is why ST staff all come work late. Eat snake. Drink tea then go home can nt be bothered.
Work so hard for other people to be promoted.

What a joke.


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