Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152752)

There are tech leads who double up as appointed team managers. In name they are managers but they also do engineer work, e.g. software / hardware development.

That's why I agree that that grade and appointments are grey area. M3 can be a engineer still but E5/6 can be a manager. It all doesn't add up. Grade, appointment and pay doesn't necessary add up.

I was E5 and was referenced as a "manager" due to my job scope. I suppose it will make it nicer sounding to customers. Yet, a M2/3 probably earning 2 to 3 times my pay was just a APE or PE doing development work.

Yes, it sounds weird. But that's how it worked at least when I was there.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152754)

You're probably just a project manager la.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152746)

Jealous for what.
Engineers also can take tea break during office hours what.

My team we go breakfast until 930 am team bonding then only start work around 10 am.
Then do some work abit. Then lunch liao.

We also go long lunch. In big group so nobody can question.

You think director only can relax ah.
Engineers paid less. We get to relax more

Think about it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152767)

We don't even work. Let low level ppl like you work after your breakfast and lunch.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152768)

Work? What is this concept of work?
You mean sit in cubicle and play mobile game? Or surf Internet or Facebook?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152773)

B4 the days of mobile phones, it was reading newspaper from cover to cover

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152798)

There's always your right hand....

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152798)

There's always your right hand....