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Old 19-10-2020, 08:02 AM
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If fresh grad can deliver, ofc they deserve higher pay.
But if working in this IT industry for the past 20 years have thaught me is that 90% of the fresh grad can't deliver.

In the past, we have the mentality, fresh grad don't have the experience ofc they can't deliver.
But in todays world where fresh grad is commanding and expecting 5k starting pay.

They oh better deliver. Or get Terminated.

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If fresh grad can deliver, ofc they deserve higher pay.
But if working in this IT industry for the past 20 years have thaught me is that 90% of the fresh grad can't deliver.

In the past, we have the mentality, fresh grad don't have the experience ofc they can't deliver.
But in todays world where fresh grad is commanding and expecting 5k starting pay.

They oh better deliver. Or get Terminated.
My nephew just graduated last year in oil industry. His starting pay 3.6k
I think the 5k starting pay expectation is only in IT and brought by newspaper report.

Not all fresh grad start at 5k.last time 5k is the lawyer fresh grad pay.
Suddenly in the last 2 to 3 years😁 all the delusional IT fresh grad expects 5k

But lawyer 5k they expected long hours until midnight and back to office the next day etc.
It fresh grad come late. Leave early. Can't deliver and still want to complain starting pay is low or increment is low or no opportunity.

I'm in office now. I don't see any of the fresh grad in the office yet le. All come after 930 am lol

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If fresh grad can deliver, ofc they deserve higher pay.
But if working in this IT industry for the past 20 years have thaught me is that 90% of the fresh grad can't deliver.

In the past, we have the mentality, fresh grad don't have the experience ofc they can't deliver.
But in todays world where fresh grad is commanding and expecting 5k starting pay.

They oh better deliver. Or get Terminated.
Not sure why NCS pays fresh grads so much also when they are not even a tier 1/2 IT company in Singapore.... They should pay the senior staff more and compete within their level.

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Old 19-10-2020, 07:47 PM
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If fresh grad can deliver, ofc they deserve higher pay.
But if working in this IT industry for the past 20 years have thaught me is that 90% of the fresh grad can't deliver.

In the past, we have the mentality, fresh grad don't have the experience ofc they can't deliver.
But in todays world where fresh grad is commanding and expecting 5k starting pay.

They oh better deliver. Or get Terminated.
If apply t1/t2 company and expect 5k pay understandable, but ncs? Must be some exceptionally "talented" fresh grad or just living under his own rock
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Old 19-10-2020, 09:29 PM
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Default NCS offer me P2

NCS has offer me a P2 grade with 5k salary.
4yrs of experiences for the role i'm applying for.

I hv 2 questions and need advice:
They mention that staff can get annual singtel bill rebate but I'm not a singtel user.
So meaning i cant claim it for my phone bill ?
Also what is annual cash payout (flexi benefits)?
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Old 19-10-2020, 11:39 PM
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got an interview for java developer. fresh grad from nus, 3rd class.. programming skills/knowledge limited to basic java with only 1 "major" project (full SDLC) done in sch. not confident in programming but want and willing to learn. so wanna check if ncs is a good choice and easy to get in?

and i know there's a technical test during interview. anyone knows if it's tough?
i was the poster 7 years ago, and i'm so glad i followed the advices here and ignored NCS, despite my credentials were trash. now, i'm a technical account manager, taking in ~11k/month
i managed to significantly improved my programming skills since, although i was never a developer.
so just wanna say, know your worth and dont settle!
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Old 20-10-2020, 09:24 AM
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i was the poster 7 years ago, and i'm so glad i followed the advices here and ignored NCS, despite my credentials were trash. now, i'm a technical account manager, taking in ~11k/month
i managed to significantly improved my programming skills since, although i was never a developer.
so just wanna say, know your worth and dont settle!
Overpaid managers. In this time of economy, best to retrench
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Old 20-10-2020, 09:26 AM
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NCS has offer me a P2 grade with 5k salary.
4yrs of experiences for the role i'm applying for.

I hv 2 questions and need advice:
They mention that staff can get annual singtel bill rebate but I'm not a singtel user.
So meaning i cant claim it for my phone bill ?
Also what is annual cash payout (flexi benefits)?
You got low ball. Fresh grad already starting with 5k lol
Yes you gotta use singtel product. Ncs parent company is singtel you dunno...
I started with 500 then 800 now 1k
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You got low ball. Fresh grad already starting with 5k lol
Yes you gotta use singtel product. Ncs parent company is singtel you dunno...
I started with 500 then 800 now 1k
I told them my expected should hv a 25% pay rise but they gave 20% pay rise from my current drawn. Which I find it quite good in time like this.
So the flexi benefits cash payout, I can use it on anything?
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Old 20-10-2020, 08:22 PM
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Not sure why NCS pays fresh grads so much also when they are not even a tier 1/2 IT company in Singapore.... They should pay the senior staff more and compete within their level.
Do the NCS seniors even deserve 5k though? I'm not sure about their skills, but look at some of the attitudes here. Even given 5k starting salary, fresh grads should steer clear of this place as I highly doubt they can learn great stuff from these seniors.
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