IMDA (under MCI)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's the main driving force for doing 20x?

Incompetent leaders who are indecisive at every layer

or

their obsession with showmanship and facade (read that some bosses are more focused on the aesthetics of the ppt, and that includes whether to put bullet or circles as point forms instead of the actual content *facepalm*)?

I can see the media side being overly obsessed with facade and appearances work-wise :/

Yup, both.

For the first point, boss will tell you, I don’t know what I want, but I know I don’t want this. And will start asking WTF questions that makes you think if they have any subject knowledge. The boss would probably say things like, explain to me like I’m a layman, and then say, your presentation lack technical info. When you put in more info, the feedback is your presentation is not concise and does not get to point directly.

As for the second, bosses LOVE infographics. It has to be something new that they seen. It can be a fanciful piechart with overload info, but they only see it as one single image, that’s concise for them

What was more troubling was that the reason for doing the task is sometimes not even clear, and asking why is frowned upon. The director will look at you like how dare you question why CE wants. And when you ask the director to explain what CE wants, they'll ask you to "do your job" and figure it out. Still dun know what the directors are busy doing since they don't seem that interested in clarifying direction. Appeasing CE maybe.

Sometimes, what CE asked for is unclear or pointless, but those under CE will try to gaslight staff to think that the work is so important it can change the world. If you don't feel passionate about it, you must be unmotivated or afraid of challenges.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Whether he is straight or not I don't think it matters. The only thing that bothers me is his extremely bad attitude toward his staff. Really waiting for karma to gets back to him.

I was ever cc-ed in an email thread with him and his staff. The way he talks to his staff is really inhumane, deliberately use a lot of hurtful words. No wonder his team has such high turnover.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What was more troubling was that the reason for doing the task is sometimes not even clear, and asking why is frowned upon. The director will look at you like how dare you question why CE wants. And when you ask the director to explain what CE wants, they'll ask you to "do your job" and figure it out. Still dun know what the directors are busy doing since they don't seem that interested in clarifying direction. Appeasing CE maybe.

Sometimes, what CE asked for is unclear or pointless, but those under CE will try to gaslight staff to think that the work is so important it can change the world. If you don't feel passionate about it, you must be unmotivated or afraid of challenges.

You must be pretty high up in your position to even rub shoulders with the director.

If director refused to help, is it taboo to email straight to the CE for clarification, and cc your string of bosses?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You must be pretty high up in your position to even rub shoulders with the director.

If director refused to help, is it taboo to email straight to the CE for clarification, and cc your string of bosses?

You can ask for a whiteboarding session with CE.

People in earlier posts have tried this. Thank you for posting about your experience.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What was more troubling was that the reason for doing the task is sometimes not even clear, and asking why is frowned upon. The director will look at you like how dare you question why CE wants. And when you ask the director to explain what CE wants, they'll ask you to "do your job" and figure it out. Still dun know what the directors are busy doing since they don't seem that interested in clarifying direction. Appeasing CE maybe.

Sometimes, what CE asked for is unclear or pointless, but those under CE will try to gaslight staff to think that the work is so important it can change the world. If you don't feel passionate about it, you must be unmotivated or afraid of challenges.

CE has his own agenda, and the Dir have their own agendas, and most if not all the time, everyone know nuts about digital or technology, and they ask questions that do not make sense. Disagreeing and trying to explain is as good as holding a wet thread up. The rule of thumb is always your reply has to please everyone in the meeting, so that the management is happy and feel good and feel like that have done their job. As for lower ranks, you just have suck it up and go back to the drawing board. Some times, you just find yourselves going a whole big round of 20x changes and ended up with the idea as presented first time round.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

CE has his own agenda, and the Dir have their own agendas, and most if not all the time, everyone know nuts about digital or technology, and they ask questions that do not make sense. Disagreeing and trying to explain is as good as holding a wet thread up. The rule of thumb is always your reply has to please everyone in the meeting, so that the management is happy and feel good and feel like that have done their job. As for lower ranks, you just have suck it up and go back to the drawing board. Some times, you just find yourselves going a whole big round of 20x changes and ended up with the idea as presented first time round.

Seems like the main issue is unwillingness to communicate personal agendas top down, and hence created divisions.

That is so frustrating and energy draining for the lower ranks.

Has any impatient souls here ever got short-fused by redoing work for 20x and throw temper at boss and boss's bosses? hahaha.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

CE has his own agenda, and the Dir have their own agendas, and most if not all the time, everyone know nuts about digital or technology, and they ask questions that do not make sense. Disagreeing and trying to explain is as good as holding a wet thread up. The rule of thumb is always your reply has to please everyone in the meeting, so that the management is happy and feel good and feel like that have done their job. As for lower ranks, you just have suck it up and go back to the drawing board. Some times, you just find yourselves going a whole big round of 20x changes and ended up with the idea as presented first time round.

The IMDA management are so damn incompetent, they know nuts about tech. Their knowledge of Gen AI is limited to ChatGPT and Midjourney but they think they are Andrew Ng.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The IMDA management are so damn incompetent, they know nuts about tech. Their knowledge of Gen AI is limited to ChatGPT and Midjourney but they think they are Andrew Ng.

Incompetent but still earn big bucks whereas tech elsewhere are laying off

What about the exco ? Everyone here complains about ce and dirs. Not much about that layer. Like they are invisible, don't exists or maybe just yes men?