Curious to know what level or title is middle manager??

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Hi went for an interview with CSA for manager position. What should my expected salary be and what MX? About 5 years experience in civil service.

Is CSA overworked? Hows the work life balance and turnover rate? They hiring quite aggressively based on careers @ Gov?

Either you are MX or not MX. If MX -> Manager equals MX 12. Follow the MX Scheme banding found elsewhere on this website, I think it is still the same.

If cybersecurity scheme, then probably same + approx 15%?

More likely cyber ppl earn better outside, cannot find talent to join the service :P

Probably but I think I cyber security is the in thing now so quite attractive for ppl to want to join an upcoming industry?

Funny how the titles are manager or asst manager but there is no one under them? Anyone knows if CSA manager got ppl to manage?

No work life balance unless you are Legolas. Turnover rate quite high for a government agency.

Think not all dept la probably only some. Got some just farm there leave on the dot

Only assistant directors and above are middle mgrs

Sounds like pretty much every workplace out there haha..

suggest you reconsider, only those on cyber security scheme are highly valued. Mx scheme to convert to cyber scheme also very hard

I am not even IT trained. Am gg in as a manager doing paper work, doubt I can even be considered for cyber security scheme.

Which role did you apply for?

Hi anyone in csa? How is the turnover rate?

Normal. but in this industry, normal means hard to replace.

Just for sharing:

Recent townhall session mentioned that the CSP scheme will mirror GovTech (alphabet grades)

Diploma holders coming in at CSP1 grade will be offered approx $2500

Retention bonus will be scraped and factored into base pay instead.

So it might seem like a pay raise on the surface. But actually the package is essentially the same.

I suppose it just means if you want big bucks, please go private sector :)

Alphabet grades? correspond to what MX??

Alphabet grading doesn't have direct mapping to MX scheme as it is considered specialist scheme and thus commands higher pay.

What about the grade wise vis a vis comparison. example manager is what specialist scheme grade??

Cyber all the rage now, how to get in this agency? i saw website have many posts.

Ask such a question I don't think you'd pass the interview.

I doubt the CV will even make the grade...

Really interested to join csa. Any tips on what

Wonder poster of the above can share the interview process?

Anyone in CSA can share the work life balance? Alot of OT?

Does Batman have work-life balance?

Why so salty? Cant get in?

Have a pending offer, appreciate any helpful insights, thanks!

Extracted from earlier post: lol only paperwork in csa. cyber security is the IN thing but definitely not paper work security lol

Thread-poster never read earlier posts?

Never read, got ppl like you so free. Anw I'm sure you're not a current employee so if you cant speak from experience, better dont answer

pls state position. experience varies depend on cyber vs non cyber, tech vs non tech

Would like to know culture and if there is alot of OT or 830-6 kind of job.

Depends on division. Generally, the org is very political. If you want to survive, you need to make good friends with those holding high positions.

You've just described 80% of the organisations out there :P

Thank you for your valuable insight!

Would you consider taking up an offer for manager, non tech (do paperwork), non cyber (not IT related role) for 5k? About 5 years unrelated experience to cyber security and IT.

Non techs are under the mx scheme so are treated as generalist. so the pay you describe is inline with that scheme. If you want to break into cyber through this path, it is a uphill task.

Not aiming to do any tech work or cyber work! So no intention of trying get IT skills too. Am just concerned if I am able to have a 830-6pm job with minimal OT as I got kids and other obligations

Well CSA is still a relatively new organisation so that makes it worse than those 80%.

It depends on your division.