hear from my friend that working as an engineer in SP is not really worth it. need to own/buy car but company not giving enough for the car ownership + average starting salary + poor increments. So, ultimately, it is like digging into your own shallow pocket to pay for the car. Other companies seems to be offering better. so much more private company out there offering high starting and relatively not bad increment. Best of all, most job do not require you to own car.