Originally Posted by Unregistered

I remember during the 80s and 90s, to be called a Manager, you have to fulfil criterias like:

1) Accountability for P&L
2) Management of department budget
3) Authortiy to sign off significant expenses, represent co. in negotiation
4) Got a sizable team of professionals under you (those with only blue collar subordinates only qualify to call Supervisor)
5) Manage a large scale project or process
6) Authority to hire, fire, promote and groom your subordinates
7) Pay in 2012 terms min 10k monthly

Now base on my observations a typical civil service / stat board / GLC / some inflated MNC "manager":

1) No accountability for P&L or budget at all, most do not even know their dept cost centres
2) Besides signing off SOP admin documents, have totally no authority to decide on expenses
3) No subordinates or a few old bird low educated clerks "parked" under them for show
4) Performing junior executive administrative procedures
5) Have totally no say in how they run their people (if any)
6) 3k -5k monthly pay