^ again, an entirely useless response. It's likely that you were rejected by both but you don't have to be so bitter about it. Pretty sure you're going nowhere with that kind of attitude.

Also, I'll have you know that these firms don't disclose their starting salaries (after TC) to the trainees in their initial contract. I'm looking for a ballpark figure by assocs who qualified this year and dont mind sharing what their new contracts show wrt remuneration.