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[qwerty]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I also joined civil svc at 30 on entry level MXO grade but have seen my pay double in my 6 years now.

You have the wrong approach if you think you just need to wait your turn to get promoted, you have to climb to the top of the pile. But that is probably why you are where you are now.

Are you serious? That's like more than 10% increment per year, what's the avg increment for promotion and non-promotion years?

[qwerty]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does CEP stay the same even if you switch organizations within civil service/sb?

What if you switch to a different role/department?

You won't get a different CEP just by switching departments or even ministries. However like another poster has pointed out, your CEP will rise and fall but only until you're a certain age, after which it will probably stagnate for the rest of your career.

It depends. CEP is never fixed and it's not linear. It can go up or down.
Typically, when you transfer, your boss would also change. Likely your CEP would also be reset because of these 2 reasons:
1) Your new boss doesn't know you well enough
2) You're learning new skills

Longer term, as long as you're passionate in your new job, your boss would likely like you and 'fight' to up your CEP.

p/s boss is referring to some superscale director, may not be your direct sup.

Also you need to take note that the CEP is a measure of potential and a long term career plan and there is no guarantee that you will reach this ceiling. How so? Promotion is quota-based, that is quota of the number of positions available for a certain grade within your ministry/dept. Suppose there is no quota, you won't be able to rise, regardless of your CEP.

Originally Posted by qwerty

Are you serious? That's like more than 10% increment per year, what's the avg increment for promotion and non-promotion years?

I am not the above poster, but this was my experience too. CAGR about 14%.

Originally Posted by qwerty

You won't get a different CEP just by switching departments or even ministries. However like another poster has pointed out, your CEP will rise and fall but only until you're a certain age, after which it will probably stagnate for the rest of your career.


Also you need to take note that the CEP is a measure of potential and a long term career plan and there is no guarantee that you will reach this ceiling. How so? Promotion is quota-based, that is quota of the number of positions available for a certain grade within your ministry/dept. Suppose there is no quota, you won't be able to rise, regardless of your CEP.

Based on my past observation, the quota only seems to apply to superscale grade. Unless you're very ambitious, most of my peers (we're not on MX scale) are already at or near MX10 range e.g. don't seem to have quota within Div 1 level.

[qwerty]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Based on my past observation, the quota only seems to apply to superscale grade. Unless you're very ambitious, most of my peers (we're not on MX scale) are already at or near MX10 range e.g. don't seem to have quota within Div 1 level.

The quota probably exists for all grades, you can check with your manager at your next appraisal and see if that's true. Of course if the quota or turnover is sufficiently high then people will never be affected by it and thus it will appear as if there is no quota at all.

Has anyone experienced being or seen a diploma holder who performed very well and got transferred into the MX scheme? I don't think that happens in ministries but some stat boards might be doing it. Wife said she has chance to get converted to MX scheme by next year. Will it affect her CEP somehow?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thinking of going overseas to study overseas, either US or UK.

Does anyone who has knowledge of civil service/stat board recruitment processes know if the SG government care about reputation/ranking of universities?

I know that the usual suspects like Oxbridge, Yale, Harvard, LSE etc. are looked upon favorably but what about below those? Is there a difference in the mind of the public service recruiters between a quite good but not top university and a mid-tier university? For example, universities like Manchester, Edinburgh, Bristol etc...they are quite prestigious in UK but wondering if there is any 'reputation effect' in the eyes of the govt employers here.

Yes they care about it. If you went to a well-known degree mill then it counts for little. Look at the university's international ranking. If within top 200 should be fine.

[adrianfoo]

Does LTA interview require us to show the payslip?

If yes, how many months needed?

mind u, Manchester, Edinburgh and Bristol are big names. FYI, DPM Teo went to Manchester & Edinburgh is the top Uni in Scotland.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thinking of going overseas to study overseas, either US or UK.

Does anyone who has knowledge of civil service/stat board recruitment processes know if the SG government care about reputation/ranking of universities?

I know that the usual suspects like Oxbridge, Yale, Harvard, LSE etc. are looked upon favorably but what about below those? Is there a difference in the mind of the public service recruiters between a quite good but not top university and a mid-tier university? For example, universities like Manchester, Edinburgh, Bristol etc...they are quite prestigious in UK but wondering if there is any 'reputation effect' in the eyes of the govt employers here.

Anyone knows if Senior Manager in NEA is roughly equal to Dy Director in a ministry? I am now a SM in NEA with total 15 years work experience, thinking of applying for a DD opening in MTI, not sure whether they can match my experience in terms of job scope and pay.

Thanks in advance.