payscheme of GLCs

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actually in my experience the looking down on support function like IT/HR/Admin/Sales Support/Customer Service/ Procurement etc is everywhere since they are cost center rather than revenue generator.

But the culture is more uncheck in local companies or smaller mncs which are run like local culture. Almost all the GLCs have typical local mentality. A HR admin wil get bully by doctors in healthcare GLC, but similarly they will also get bullied by the leasing side if its a property GLC or stamp on by BD guys if its a telco GLC.

Yes I agree such an attitude is everywhere, I just feel it is more extreme and open in the healthcare sector.

Originally Posted by HR executive

Are you the figures are so low? I dun think so personally...

I also think its low leh... which means the normal job grade 11 is equivalent to a grade 12 in the non-nursing/allied health jobs. 0_0

Honestly speaking I wouldn't consider healthcare institutions as GLC, simply because they are not for profit! So stop lumping other GLCs (e.g. Singtel, GIC, Temasek, and Accenture etc.) together with the PHIs please. And do read the post by fearoftheunknown; she is absolutely right in stating the salary, perks, and motivation for joining the healthcare industry.

There were a few people that shared their insight of being in the healthcare institution; they are right as well. Generally administrators are not paid as handsomely, nor treated as "well" as the medical professionals (e.g. doctors, nurses, AHPs etc.). So if you do want to join as administrators (e.g. executives in operations, IT, corp comms, and HR etc.), please be prepared to:

1) Receive lower salary package when comparing to other public agencies (e.g. Ministries, Stat boards, organs of state etc.); and
2) Able to withstand the "hierarchy" of medical professionals vs non-medical professionals, on top of the usual career ladder hierarchy.

If after understanding all the "cons" of joining a healthcare institution in a non medical profession, and you are still interested to make a difference, by all means please join. I would say this is really not a job for those who wish to earn loads of money. Not unless you've reached at least the DD level, which typically takes about 20 years, and very limited for non-medical professions.

A couple of misconceptions here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly speaking I wouldn't consider healthcare institutions as GLC, simply because they are not for profit! So stop lumping other GLCs (e.g. Singtel, GIC, Temasek, and Accenture etc.) together with the PHIs please. And do read the post by fearoftheunknown; she is absolutely right in stating the salary, perks, and motivation for joining the healthcare industry.

NHG & Singhealth, 2 of the biggest helathcare governement group in SG is a constituted company with all the governance and requirements of the companies act. The fact they are not for profit does not make them less of a company, so the assertion that they are not a GLC is simply incorrect. In fact, legally speaking they are even more GLC than Singtel or SIA as it is 100% government owned.

As for pay packages, this is detemined by the remuneration strategy of the organization. It does not follow that non-profit must be necessarily lower than for profit. In fact, I would argue that while the junior level folks may be lowly paid, the senior executives / managers appear to be on par, if not higher than even some smaller GLCs owned by Temasek.

All this talk about motivation ,what you get joining them, purpose in life is all very good, but at the end of the day is just your personal views. In no way is the fact that they are a 100% owned government company determined by perceptions of a rank & file employee.

There were a few people that shared their insight of being in the healthcare institution; they are right as well. Generally administrators are not paid as handsomely, nor treated as "well" as the medical professionals (e.g. doctors, nurses, AHPs etc.). So if you do want to join as administrators (e.g. executives in operations, IT, corp comms, and HR etc.), please be prepared to:

1) Receive lower salary package when comparing to other public agencies (e.g. Ministries, Stat boards, organs of state etc.); and
2) Able to withstand the "hierarchy" of medical professionals vs non-medical professionals, on top of the usual career ladder hierarchy.

As one of the posters above, this is nothing unique at all and happens in most other industries as well. Try telling a bank customer service BO guy how his treatement is different from a FO IB counterpart & I think his grievances are even more legitimate than a IT guy compared to a doctor.

If after understanding all the "cons" of joining a healthcare institution in a non medical profession, and you are still interested to make a difference, by all means please join. I would say this is really not a job for those who wish to earn loads of money. Not unless you've reached at least the DD level, which typically takes about 20 years, and very limited for non-medical professions.

This is more of a "con" of being in a support function that is seen as ncecessary evil expense rather than some unique aspect of the government healthcare inustry. As far as I know, the same sh*t happens to administrators whether is healthcare, pharmeceutical, medical device or life science private for profit company.

Try asking an IT administrator if his pay, career prospect and respect in the company he gets is the same as a principal researcher in a life science company and it probably would be exactly the same.

Hi ...

I am interested to find out too.

What the difference btw admin side in healthcare GLCs vs MOH/HSA (i.e healthcare related statsboard & ministries)

Starting pay/ Pay progression/Career prospects/

What are some examples of healthcare glc? If salaries are low as per mentioned, what about the bonus?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

A couple of misconceptions here.



NHG & Singhealth, 2 of the biggest helathcare governement group in SG is a constituted company with all the governance and requirements of the companies act. The fact they are not for profit does not make them less of a company, so the assertion that they are not a GLC is simply incorrect. In fact, legally speaking they are even more GLC than Singtel or SIA as it is 100% government owned.

As for pay packages, this is detemined by the remuneration strategy of the organization. It does not follow that non-profit must be necessarily lower than for profit. In fact, I would argue that while the junior level folks may be lowly paid, the senior executives / managers appear to be on par, if not higher than even some smaller GLCs owned by Temasek.

All this talk about motivation ,what you get joining them, purpose in life is all very good, but at the end of the day is just your personal views. In no way is the fact that they are a 100% owned government company determined by perceptions of a rank & file employee.



As one of the posters above, this is nothing unique at all and happens in most other industries as well. Try telling a bank customer service BO guy how his treatement is different from a FO IB counterpart & I think his grievances are even more legitimate than a IT guy compared to a doctor.



This is more of a "con" of being in a support function that is seen as ncecessary evil expense rather than some unique aspect of the government healthcare inustry. As far as I know, the same sh*t happens to administrators whether is healthcare, pharmeceutical, medical device or life science private for profit company.

Try asking an IT administrator if his pay, career prospect and respect in the company he gets is the same as a principal researcher in a life science company and it probably would be exactly the same.

Well do you even know who "owns" The clusters? The only reason why these clusters are state owned is simply because it is healthcare. Healthcare is a basic necessity in any country. In Singapore, it just so happens that our strategy was to rely more on public than on private, especially for a developing country then.

Do you even know how much those so called executives in the clusters earn? and how many of them are medical doctors by profession? If not please don't exaggerate and give false hopes to people. At the end of the day, please think if you want to make a difference in people's lives should you think about joining the healthcare sector. And oh. Bonus typically mimic public sector, with 13 Month and pb.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well do you even know who "owns" The clusters? The only reason why these clusters are state owned is simply because it is healthcare. Healthcare is a basic necessity in any country. In Singapore, it just so happens that our strategy was to rely more on public than on private, especially for a developing country then.

Do you even know how much those so called executives in the clusters earn? and how many of them are medical doctors by profession? If not please don't exaggerate and give false hopes to people. At the end of the day, please think if you want to make a difference in people's lives should you think about joining the healthcare sector. And oh. Bonus typically mimic public sector, with 13 Month and pb.

How abt mid-year bonus &year end bonus?
Healthcare GLCS i refer to NHGs,Jurong health services, hospitals etc

need more experts to discuss more!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How abt mid-year bonus &year end bonus?
Healthcare GLCS i refer to NHGs,Jurong health services, hospitals etc

need more experts to discuss more!

Need more exprts to verify

so many conflicting info who can tell who is expert??? better to just ask whatever glc the hr in charge directly. better still dun join a glc if u can get something better