Civil/Public Sector - Ministry/Stat Boards employees knowledge needed!

[Fearoftheunknown]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you really do want to apply for a diploma level job, then you can leave out the fact that you have a degree. Why would you want a dip level job? You know that they won't promote you to a degree level position down the road right? Because they are looking for someone to work in that dip position, if they do hire you, they probably expect you to work in that position at least in the next 3-5 years.

That's hard to say. Now even diploma holders already hold executive positions in civil sector. If they work long enough, they may be promoted to senior executive. I think no more executive asst for diploma holders for some stat boards, thus it's easier to promote from Exec - Senior Exec, instead of Exec asst - Exec. I could be wrong though. But some diploma holders job do welcome degree holders.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you really do want to apply for a diploma level job, then you can leave out the fact that you have a degree. Why would you want a dip level job? You know that they won't promote you to a degree level position down the road right? Because they are looking for someone to work in that dip position, if they do hire you, they probably expect you to work in that position at least in the next 3-5 years.

Public sector don't seem to recognise private degree, and I'm worried they might not want to pay more for a degree person in diploma position thus affecting my chances of getting an interview.

Originally Posted by Fearoftheunknown

That's hard to say. Now even diploma holders already hold executive positions in civil sector. If they work long enough, they may be promoted to senior executive. I think no more executive asst for diploma holders for some stat boards, thus it's easier to promote from Exec - Senior Exec, instead of Exec asst - Exec. I could be wrong though. But some diploma holders job do welcome degree holders.

It really depends on where you work. At my place, lets say they have a position for a diploma job, it is usually for a certain department that is made up of mainly diploma holders. Because the work that this specific dept does do not require a degree. And yes, they do get promoted, but never out of that dept. They can get promoted to head that particular dept, and it is only then that the person within that dept is identified, and sent to get a degree and take over.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Public sector don't seem to recognise private degree, and I'm worried they might not want to pay more for a degree person in diploma position thus affecting my chances of getting an interview.

Then what's the point? You wanna trick them and then at the interview say 'surprise, I got a degree!'? If they dont recognise pte degree, then why work there? You should head for private sector, gain exp, then come back with exp so they will consider it a mid-career switch. Instead, if you start at diploma position, it is not a confirmed thing that they will promote you JUST because you have a degree leh. If they really want to promote someone from the diploma pool to a degree position, they will pick the best and send him to take a degree. They wont pick you just because you have a degree already.

Had my first ever interview this week and it lasted for a mere 15 minutes... are public sector interviews that short?! Well, the hiring managers were running behind schedule but still, it didn't feel right.. :/ oh wells

Are they very few vacancies in Govt sector for Diploma holders or is it just really really competitive? I have a local diploma with slightly better than average GPA but found it hard to get selected for interviews, let alone secure a perm job there.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Had my first ever interview this week and it lasted for a mere 15 minutes... are public sector interviews that short?! Well, the hiring managers were running behind schedule but still, it didn't feel right.. :/ oh wells

Depends on which organisation it is and what type of interview it is. Went for an interview at a ministry and it only lasted for 15 mins too. got called for the second round of interview after that.

Don't lose hope

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Had my first ever interview this week and it lasted for a mere 15 minutes... are public sector interviews that short?! Well, the hiring managers were running behind schedule but still, it didn't feel right.. :/ oh wells

Most of my interviews with ministries/sb lasted for atleast half an hour... The shortest was 30 minutes which happened today. But I guess that was because they learnt about my verbal offer from another org and realized that they cannot match the salary at all.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are they very few vacancies in Govt sector for Diploma holders or is it just really really competitive? I have a local diploma with slightly better than average GPA but found it hard to get selected for interviews, let alone secure a perm job there.

grades arent everything. sometimes people with better IQs have lower EQs. Nowadays most sectors prefer to hire undergrads so dip holder jobs would get lesser as the years go by. try keeping your options wide open and aim for pte sector jobs too.

[Fearoftheunknown]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

grades arent everything. sometimes people with better IQs have lower EQs. Nowadays most sectors prefer to hire undergrads so dip holder jobs would get lesser as the years go by. try keeping your options wide open and aim for pte sector jobs too.

Lol but the poster is trying to get govt jobs, and grades are everything in public service. Or so I heard.