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05-03-2013, 01:51 PM
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If you don't have transferable skills and experience, then yes definitely your salary will take a hit if you switch to the private sector. The problem is that many of the govt jobs do not allow one to clock experience that would be useful in the private sector.
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Yea. I couldn't agree more and that is what I'm afraid of. Right now I have applied to specific positions that I deem would be transferable if I hop from public to private sector..i.e. procurement.
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05-03-2013, 01:56 PM
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What about working in Spring/IE Singapore/ MAS/ EDB etc...these economy based boards ....skills learnt in these institutions should be more relevant in the pvt biz sphere wouldnt it?
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05-03-2013, 02:01 PM
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What about working in Spring/IE Singapore/ MAS/ EDB etc...these economy based boards ....skills learnt in these institutions should be more relevant in the pvt biz sphere wouldnt it?
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I'm not sure about Spring and IE, but I heard those working in MAS is difficult to hop to pte banking sector because the set of skills they learn is very different from what is required. It is good to be in EDB as you will have the opportunities to meet lots of ppl from the top management and in future will be beneficial if you wanna hop to their companies. But it is quite stressful to work in EDB and also is one of the most difficult stat board to enter.
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05-03-2013, 02:57 PM
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My personal take on the matter, feel free to ignore:
If you're a fresh grad and you don't have some prestigious scholarship that will give you a significant edge in a government agency, give it a go in the private sector for a few years. Maybe 5 to 10 years. After that time, you'll know whether you are good enough to make it in the private sector. If you can see your peers far ahead of you in terms of job roles and pay scales, then maybe it's time to consider a switch to the public sector.
The point is, if you start off as a fresh grad in the public sector and clock 5 to 10 years there, later on if you want to switch to the private sector it may be very difficult. So at least expose yourself to what it's like in the private sector for the first few years of your working life, then make a decision.
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05-03-2013, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Incognito
My personal take on the matter, feel free to ignore:
If you're a fresh grad and you don't have some prestigious scholarship that will give you a significant edge in a government agency, give it a go in the private sector for a few years. Maybe 5 to 10 years. After that time, you'll know whether you are good enough to make it in the private sector. If you can see your peers far ahead of you in terms of job roles and pay scales, then maybe it's time to consider a switch to the public sector.
The point is, if you start off as a fresh grad in the public sector and clock 5 to 10 years there, later on if you want to switch to the private sector it may be very difficult. So at least expose yourself to what it's like in the private sector for the first few years of your working life, then make a decision.
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I never wanted my first job to be of public sector..but private sector doesn't wanna give opportunity to fresh graduates...left me no option.
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05-03-2013, 04:11 PM
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I never wanted my first job to be of public sector..but private sector doesn't wanna give opportunity to fresh graduates...left me no option.
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I can understand and definitely empathize with you there. Sometimes we can spend all day talking about what company or what sector to join...but at the end of the day we are also limited by the opportunities we manage to obtain for ourselves. We can only make the best possible decision based on the circumstances.
Still, if you're not too far along in your career, why not give it a shot in the private sector...if you can. Otherwise 20 years will pass and you'll start wondering about all the "what ifs"
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05-03-2013, 08:37 PM
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Real scholars under AO dun start in a stat board. They will only be parachuted to lead farmers at around Director or Chief Exec level. The farmers that take up scholarships within SB are still considered farmers and subject to the same ceiling and pay as the masses.
A typical farmer will retire as a DD, very good performer maybe a D, DD roughly equal to a jnr manager in a big MNC, D is like a mid-low level manager.
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This comment is likely from a rejected/disgruntled sour-grape.
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05-03-2013, 08:50 PM
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Yea. I couldn't agree more and that is what I'm afraid of. Right now I have applied to specific positions that I deem would be transferable if I hop from public to private sector..i.e. procurement.
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Procurement in government sector comes with extra extra red tapes, with more to come when more "corrupted & creative" officers are exposed. The same procurement rules would kill any private sector companies i.e. least relevant to say. Becos of more red-tapes, more procurement vacancies/jobs are opened up in these area. Another side effect is more opening for internal audits. The more transferable skills are those not outsourced to private sector i.e. healthcare, security, education etc.
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05-03-2013, 08:50 PM
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I cant verify his statement. So stat board scholars are essentially worthless? I do lose out against one in some way im sure..there has to be some distinction otherwise why be a scholar in the first place, albeit a second rate one (in your words).
Last edited by MaximusPrime; 05-03-2013 at 08:54 PM.
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05-03-2013, 09:03 PM
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Procurement in government sector comes with extra extra red tapes, with more to come when more "corrupted & creative" officers are exposed. The same procurement rules would kill any private sector companies i.e. least relevant to say. The more transferable skills are those not outsourced to private sector i.e. healthcare, security, education etc.
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I dun quite understand why would healthcare, security, and education be transferable? Healthcare itself is a niche and I won't consider working in govt hospital be any different as compared to private hospital. That is also not the sort of jobs that I'm interested in. Even for the admin-related healthcare positions, I dun think it will be transferable in the future e.g. policy formulation, hospital ops. Security? which area? police..army? Those are not transferable. Education? Yes...it is transferable but first have to ask yourself if you are interested in teaching.
As for procurement, I'm not too concern over the rules but I'm more interested in having a start in that particular field i.e. learn about basic procurement process...issue po... liaise with vendors...knowing what type of software they using etc....
I dun understand why you would say healthcare, security, education these areas as being transferable. To me, those are really niche jobs as compared to procurement being more general.
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