HR-related Jobs - How much are you earning?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No offence, but I highly doubt a local retail bread chain would have HR specialists. Your name card may say you are a business partner, but the question is do you really know what business partnering is all about?

4-6k is the range for junior HR Associates in global companies, I suspect your title is very inflated and you are basically just a operations manager doing things like recruitment, payroll, training schedules etc. You might want to start asking around proper HR professionals from big names before making a fool of yourself.

It's a different world out there compared to small medium local companies.

I agree. Right now there are a handful of HRBPs everywhere... even newly fresh grads can also become HRBP. What makes a difference between these HR generalists aka HRBP and the high level HRBP is how involved they are in the strategy side of the business.

Those high level HRBP can even be HR director themselves given their experience & expertise. Please don't fall in the trap by just looking at the job title only. Right now most companies are redesignating titles to HRBP, HR Specialist, HR Analyst, Talent Acquisition, Talent Mgmt... Read up on what actually the above HR professionals do before lumping every HRBP together.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No offence, but I highly doubt a local retail bread chain would have HR specialists. Your name card may say you are a business partner, but the question is do you really know what business partnering is all about?

4-6k is the range for junior HR Associates in global companies, I suspect your title is very inflated and you are basically just a operations manager doing things like recruitment, payroll, training schedules etc. You might want to start asking around proper HR professionals from big names before making a fool of yourself.

It's a different world out there compared to small medium local companies.

That's because the scale and the nature of the business is different. I work as a compensation specialist and $10-$20k for senior HRBPs and C&B Managers is very common in MNCs.

Please dont look down on local company. Although Breadtalk is not as big as foreign companies like Apple IBM Citibank etc we are still a big and well known brand in Asia. HR no matter where is doing around the same things, dont try and exaggerate and lie to me when I have already work in the industry for many years. If any co. can really pay HR specialist so much everyone in the whole industry will already know & rush there to join them.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I agree. Right now there are a handful of HRBPs everywhere... even newly fresh grads can also become HRBP. What makes a difference between these HR generalists aka HRBP and the high level HRBP is how involved they are in the strategy side of the business.

Those high level HRBP can even be HR director themselves given their experience & expertise. Please don't fall in the trap by just looking at the job title only. Right now most companies are redesignating titles to HRBP, HR Specialist, HR Analyst, Talent Acquisition, Talent Mgmt... Read up on what actually the above HR professionals do before lumping every HRBP together.

Yar yar this is what this whole discussion is abt. Throwing out big words like business strategy & expertise & big mnc and then anyhow boast abt high pay high bonus for HR specialist. Im not interested in wasting time with a bunch of online liars who never work in HR in their whole life, my main aim is to stop the misleading crap that you all are spreading.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Please dont look down on local company. Although Breadtalk is not as big as foreign companies like Apple IBM Citibank etc we are still a big and well known brand in Asia. HR no matter where is doing around the same things, dont try and exaggerate and lie to me when I have already work in the industry for many years. If any co. can really pay HR specialist so much everyone in the whole industry will already know & rush there to join them.

Not looking down on local companies but there are HR specialists that are paid 10-20k in those fortune 500 companies. It depends on the industry and the job scope. Of course some MNCs and industries pay more.

You can't just based your years of experience and knowledge in the industry to make absolute statement saying HR specialists don't earn 10-20k. I come from O&G company and I can tell you there are HR specialists paid 10-20k but of course they are those mgr/senior mgr level.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Although Breadtalk is not as big as foreign companies like Apple IBM Citibank etc we are still a big and well known brand in Asia.

You make it sound as if Breadtalk is 50% smaller than Apple.

Apple market worth is currently US$750BILLION, Breadtalk is S$300MILLION, Apple’s 270000% the size of Breadtalk. Get a grip and have some sense of proportion please.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Please dont look down on local company. Although Breadtalk is not as big as foreign companies like Apple IBM Citibank etc we are still a big and well known brand in Asia. HR no matter where is doing around the same things, dont try and exaggerate and lie to me when I have already work in the industry for many years. If any co. can really pay HR specialist so much everyone in the whole industry will already know & rush there to join them.

You do know that there are HR consultants (specialists in specific HR disciplines) in Mercer and Towers who are making big bucks right?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You do know that there are HR consultants (specialists in specific HR disciplines) in Mercer and Towers who are making big bucks right?

I doubt the likes of Breadtalk have money to engage management consultants.

Just curious with so many big titles used in job ads how do we tell which one is more strategy side vs the administration side?

I have 2 years experience working in a PR marketing firm now and thinking of joining C&B or Talent Sourcing specialist, but in job portals seems like most HR jobs are called Business Partners or Specialist and salary just say "depending on experience". How to tell if they can offer specialist pay?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just curious with so many big titles used in job ads how do we tell which one is more strategy side vs the administration side?

I have 2 years experience working in a PR marketing firm now and thinking of joining C&B or Talent Sourcing specialist, but in job portals seems like most HR jobs are called Business Partners or Specialist and salary just say "depending on experience". How to tell if they can offer specialist pay?

A few clues for specialist position. 1) Ask the hiring company what is their budget, specialist should be much higher 2) See the position report to who. If report to some local HR ops manager then confirm fake title 3) Size of co. Most local co. and smaller mncs dont have any specialist irregardless of the title 4) Ask interviewer specifically the task you need to do everyday.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just curious with so many big titles used in job ads how do we tell which one is more strategy side vs the administration side?

I have 2 years experience working in a PR marketing firm now and thinking of joining C&B or Talent Sourcing specialist, but in job portals seems like most HR jobs are called Business Partners or Specialist and salary just say "depending on experience". How to tell if they can offer specialist pay?

You can differentiate between a mere title and the "real thing" based on the job description (JD) and expectations of the (ideal) candidate.