SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay

like the fact that 1/2 of the NUS/NTU/SMU grads cannot find a job in the PR/Advertising/Marketing industry?

Reason is simple, they applied for job and got offered a sub 3k salary and long OT hours. Decided to do something else with their biz degree. Except for the NTU mass comm grad who was stuck.

SIM grads have the advantage because they are more willing to take low ball offers.

Having said that, employers also know that and give them sub 2.5k offers.

Actually reading the poly guy's replies, it is obvious that he cannot accept the fact that he cannot make it academically, even at his advanced age.

Why will employers want to employ this old "fresh grad" with a bad track record, when they can hire genuine 21 year old fresh grads?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Went down to UniSIM and SIM GE to speak with some friends and the staff today, was abit relived to find out that the average age group hovers between 25-28 for part time courses so that was a bit reassuring for me.

Reassuring? Oh please. You would of course expect older folks (the 25-28 year olds) to take such part time courses. The younger ones would mostly be doing proper full time degrees!

Those taking up such part time courses are a "self-selected" bunch. The observation alone should be of little basis (if at all) for assurance of the value of the course.

oh come on give him a break. Young boy is just lost.

He is not lost, he is merely seeking self confirmation.

And he is long past the young boy age, yet still not mature.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

He is not lost, he is merely seeking self confirmation.

And he is long past the young boy age, yet still not mature.

could be that cauz his parents already specially set aside $$$ for him to study thats why he dun really feel the pinch. i mean if someone just throw me $$$ & tell me i can use that to study some pt courses i like of course i will also go for it even if little value.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

could be that cauz his parents already specially set aside $$$ for him to study thats why he dun really feel the pinch. i mean if someone just throw me $$$ & tell me i can use that to study some pt courses i like of course i will also go for it even if little value.

For me, I will not think because it is my parents' money, then I can anyhow spend and also even if I got free money or throw me some money, I also will consider it carefully. Because it is better to plan and spend your money and also your time wisely. Because this is just a one time cash, once it's gone, it's gone.

I will suggest him to plan well as I have mention during my earlier post. Plan properly and execute properly.

Based on what he is looking for, he is not lost but just clouded with the idea of "the grass is greener on the other side". Because based on how he describe, he does not really know how areospace sector works. Maybe a bit but he didnt know the actual job scope that he is looking for.

there is one more thing I missed out, normally part time degree will be better for those employees who have work in the particular sector and wish to progress to the management level, part time degree is useful for this progression. As for jumping to another sector, it will be hard. Because it does not justify your worthy just because you got a degree, probably you will have to start from the bottom like those fresh grad or maybe lesser. The reason is because the recognition on the qualification is there since he also know NUS/NTU are more prestigious that SIM.


Also, it might be hard for him to get job as I mention, there isnt just local uni or local people looking for jobs, but also FT as well. He will have to think carefully

Originally Posted by Unregistered

oh come on give him a break. Young boy is just lost.

Young? Nah....

More like immature.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

He is not lost, he is merely seeking self confirmation.

And he is long past the young boy age, yet still not mature.

Yeah I wonder if he is sincerely seeking advice, or merely looking for others to validate what he has already decided for himself.

unisim grads are highly sought after - streesmart and work harder than nus anytime.

I've read most of the discussions on this thread as I am a highly anxious prospective SIM UOL student who is most uncertain about the outcome of his future.It goes without saying that local university students indeed are more superior than those studying in private institutions and let's face it if all of us were given a chance to choose any university of our predilection then almost all of us who have commented on this thread including those from private institutions would choose a local U over a private one.

The local university focuses on equipping their graduates with all the essential qualities needed to cope in today's world and there can be no comparison with that of a private institution because one must understand that it's after all a distance learning program awarded by an institution which have collaborations with that respective university.If that university had its own campus in Singapore then it would be a different story altogether.

That being said I would also like to point out that even though institution A might be lower than institution B,that doesn't make the product of the institution A more inferior to the product of institution B.This depends solely on the individuals capacity and capabilities.

From my understanding in this thread,even before proceeding to study at SIM UOL,I only acknowledged one class for which every graduate of SIM should graduate with,in order to give him or her that slight chance to compare themselves with our local peers:A first class honours.Of course I do acknowledge that there are a few "gifted candidates" who probably with Good networking skills or interpersonal skills have landed in places one might think it's absurd for their calibre but it may in fact be true.

The world we live in today is a complicated one but I want to debate about something more sophisticated than debating a simple issue "Local vs Private". There have been many speculations about how SIM UOL doesn't provide students with in depth knowledge about the respective subjects due to lack of coursework and other related factors and thus if a THIRD class local U grad were to enroll in SIM UOL,he or she may as well ace the system since it would be easier for him or her to jump on a planet with lesser gravity than the planet he or she was previously in.This may be true or untrue,it's after all just an assumption.But how about we look at it this way,Will a student from a local U who graduate with a 3rd class honours be accepted into a masters program at LSE(Main campus)? I mean why not give that student a chance because if he or she had instead enrolled in SIM UOL his or her third class honours in a local U would be anyway tantamount to a first class in SIM-UOL.It would be the most inane thing a prestigious University like LSE can do if such an institution permits a student with a third class honours to enroll in their program.With some research and live examples that move around us,No one can be oblivious and dispute the fact that a first class SIM UOL grad cannot get into LSE for their masters program.This in turn shows that a Third class honours student from a local U is not superior than a first class honours student from SIM-UOL program because if the third class student was admitted into LSE then it would be flagrant that LSE is considered as a Third class institute which can never happen.

I think once a First Class SIM UOL grad has equipped themselves with work experience and a masters from top institutions(more superior than those of our Local U's) he or she can be comparable to a local U grad and at least consider themselves on par with not the real elites(of course some may as well depending on circumstances) but the "ones" who consider themselves Good local Uni grads.

I also do acknowledge that one may discord my above opinions but hey that's part of this process,do debate with me on this issue.

Thank you for sparing time to read my thoughts.Please do correct me if I'm wrong to say what I said in anyway and I am sincerely sorry to those I might have offended in any way what so ever.

Have a good day!
(The above content is entirely based on my thoughts and opinions)