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Old 23-05-2015, 01:06 AM
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Anyone studied UOL Maths & Econs? Is it very difficult? I heard the dropout rate is high.
Also what are the job prospects like after graduation?

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Old 26-05-2015, 09:30 AM
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Old 28-05-2015, 01:03 AM
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As a fresh grad, an employer would obviously take local U over private U. Take it that one does have anything under their belt such as a CFA or other certifications, fresh grad to fresh grad, private U candidates will have a harder time finding the type of employment they want. I say this because a lot of business students always want to aim for a banking position which is a joke to begin with seeing as how these people have to idea what the business organisation entails and what is the job scope.

That being said, SIM love to pride themselves on being street smart. Lets face it, if you have good academic qualifications, you wouldn't need to latch onto these intangible qualities to try and feel relevant to society. You will never hear SMU NTU NUS business students claiming they are street smart even though they are. These people know that to get a foot through the door in the finance industry, they have to more than being loud mouths.

SIM people, be humble and ask yourself. Its simple
Didn't make it to local U? Fine, you aren't smart enough. Go private U.
Go private U, employment prospects not as even.
So face it, your not smart enough. Be it genetic or lazy, you are where you are today, accept it and move on. Stop harpering on the fact that you see yourself as equal or more to local U students.
Seriously, just admit it. "I didn't study hard enough". "I just can't". "I'm not smart enough"

I find it pretty disgusting that people are unwilling to accept their flaws and try to bring themselves up with arrogance or bring others down with jealousy.
I don't understand the logic behind this stigma; lumping SIM students together and conveniently labeling all as inferior in comparison to local grads.

What is the meaning of intelligence? Just because they are not attending prestigious schools they are intellectually inferior? Intelligent people come from all walks of life, and they are few and far between. It is statistically impossible for all or most of the local grads to be considered intelligent. Hard work and rote memorization does not equate to intellect either. Of course people who are hardworking deserve all the credit, but to blindly conform to and insist that a system is 100% efficient in singling out intelligent people and ensuring that they are placed at the top is a fallacy. Many intelligent people struggle to fit in with society and its system, so it comes to no surprise that some of them may fall behind.

I'm not defending SIM or addressing the issue of "who is better", but this constant bashing of SIM grads just because they are SIM grads is disturbing. Your hypocritical behaviour of calling people out for being disgusting while simultaneously putting SIM grads down is equally disgusting. Calling them out for bad behaviour does not constitute a need for you to put them down.

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Old 28-05-2015, 09:28 AM
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I don't understand the logic behind this stigma; lumping SIM students together and conveniently labeling all as inferior in comparison to local grads.

What is the meaning of intelligence? Just because they are not attending prestigious schools they are intellectually inferior? Intelligent people come from all walks of life, and they are few and far between. It is statistically impossible for all or most of the local grads to be considered intelligent. Hard work and rote memorization does not equate to intellect either. Of course people who are hardworking deserve all the credit, but to blindly conform to and insist that a system is 100% efficient in singling out intelligent people and ensuring that they are placed at the top is a fallacy. Many intelligent people struggle to fit in with society and its system, so it comes to no surprise that some of them may fall behind.

I'm not defending SIM or addressing the issue of "who is better", but this constant bashing of SIM grads just because they are SIM grads is disturbing. Your hypocritical behaviour of calling people out for being disgusting while simultaneously putting SIM grads down is equally disgusting. Calling them out for bad behaviour does not constitute a need for you to put them down.
Can't agree more, it's plain stupidity to me even though I am from neither SIM nor local U.
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Old 28-05-2015, 10:41 AM
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I don't understand the logic behind this stigma; lumping SIM students together and conveniently labeling all as inferior in comparison to local grads.

What is the meaning of intelligence? Just because they are not attending prestigious schools they are intellectually inferior? Intelligent people come from all walks of life, and they are few and far between. It is statistically impossible for all or most of the local grads to be considered intelligent. Hard work and rote memorization does not equate to intellect either. Of course people who are hardworking deserve all the credit, but to blindly conform to and insist that a system is 100% efficient in singling out intelligent people and ensuring that they are placed at the top is a fallacy. Many intelligent people struggle to fit in with society and its system, so it comes to no surprise that some of them may fall behind.

I'm not defending SIM or addressing the issue of "who is better", but this constant bashing of SIM grads just because they are SIM grads is disturbing. Your hypocritical behaviour of calling people out for being disgusting while simultaneously putting SIM grads down is equally disgusting. Calling them out for bad behaviour does not constitute a need for you to put them down.
The irrational behavior is both ways. Local U like to bash SIM as inferior, SIM like to BS they are superior because of their streetsmartness (whatever that means).

At the end of the day, whichever U / poly / ITE we from, only thing that counts is to make big money in whatever we do. Only people who struggle in career cannot make good money have the time to keep bashing others, successful ones too busy making money already.

Do you think anyone making 500k a year got time to keep debating about my U better than your U?
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Old 28-05-2015, 11:51 AM
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all the smart ppl are in prestigious schools.

not everyone in prestigious schools are smart.

u dont need to be very smart to do well in the corporate world.
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Its damn funny why this thread is always local uni and sim grads bashing each other (read ego).
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Old 30-05-2015, 11:06 PM
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Hi everyone. I am a fresh graduate from SIM UOL currently looking for a marketing job in the FMCG industry. Do let me know if there is any opening!

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Hi everyone. I am a fresh graduate from SIM UOL currently looking for a marketing job in the FMCG industry. Do let me know if there is any opening!

Thank you
What degree are you are having? Expected honors?
Why specifically FMCG?
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Why specifically FMCG?
coz everyone thinks its so fun and oh so cool.
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