What is an Oxbridge degree worth nowadays?

Yeah, it seems to be the case.

Anyway, at your BB IB what is the % of FO new hires from ivies/oxbridge? Does it help to have a degree from there?

Btw, how's the hours like? Is it similar to the US where you have to pull 80-100hours with a couple of all nighters here and there?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I work for a bulge bracket IB and the only Singapore-educated graduates that we have taken in are from SMU. NUS and NTU kids just didn't seem to have the business sense of the SMU grads.

Business sense is inborn.

Education does more damage than concussion to business sense.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah, it seems to be the case.

Anyway, at your BB IB what is the % of FO new hires from ivies/oxbridge? Does it help to have a degree from there?

Btw, how's the hours like? Is it similar to the US where you have to pull 80-100hours with a couple of all nighters here and there?

Its not just ivies/oxbridge, but also Insead and certain Chinese and Indian universities. Probably about 90%, even though casualty rate is probablya round 40% after a few years. So, if you don't have a top degree, you have to be extraordinarily lucky to get in. But getting in is not enough. Everyone around you is smart and driven.

Hours depend on department. Worst is corporate finance, equity research. Easiest is asset management.

i hav last classs hons from local and i am workin in front office in BB, recently I was the primary author for a new reserach product.... having said that u probably have a higher pay than me.

u dun need cambridge, if u cant in front office with 1st class, u ll never get into front office

and fyi we dun take in smu pple or art majors too floozy only know how to talk big & get class participation points
cant deliever

Being the primary author for a new research product doesn't mean anything if the product is a flop. Being the #1 rated Asian analyst in a sector does because it means your research is recognized and valued by fund managers.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i hav last classs hons from local and i am workin in front office in BB, recently I was the primary author for a new reserach product.... having said that u probably have a higher pay than me.

u dun need cambridge, if u cant in front office with 1st class, u ll never get into front office

and fyi we dun take in smu pple or art majors too floozy only know how to talk big & get class participation points
cant deliever

1st class honours or Last class honours? our local universities are producing graduates who cannot even spell properly.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1st class honours or Last class honours? our local universities are producing graduates who cannot even spell properly.

i hav LAST CLASS hons, our foreign universities are producing elite scholars who cannot even read properly, dun even know how to find an outside jobs by themselves without the govt spoonfeeding them everything.

I am part of the team that was ranked top 3 in the sector by II for the past few years.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i hav LAST CLASS hons, our foreign universities are producing elite scholars who cannot even read properly, dun even know how to find an outside jobs by themselves without the govt spoonfeeding them everything.

I am part of the team that was ranked top 3 in the sector by II for the past few years.

The way I see it is either your father was one of the big swinging dicks at the BB or have been super lucky to get into FO with your 'last' class honors at a local uni. By the way, your post is off topic. We're not here to debate elite scholars or how they are being spoonfed by the gahmen. We're here to discuss the value of an ivy league degree.

PS: I am neither a scholar or a recipient of any scholarship/aid from the gahmen.

Originally Posted by DLJ

The way I see it is either your father was one of the big swinging dicks at the BB or have been super lucky to get into FO with your 'last' class honors at a local uni. By the way, your post is off topic. We're not here to debate elite scholars or how they are being spoonfed by the gahmen. We're here to discuss the value of an ivy league degree.

PS: I am neither a scholar or a recipient of any scholarship/aid from the gahmen.

the threadstarter already have all the preconditions, to get in FO, wiith 1st class, Master and he is already in the industry, if he cant get into FO with all these, nothing, not even ivy league or oxbridge will get him in, esp when it is not a finance degree.

hi people,

sorry to intrude this thread, but i am pretty much confused over the future course of my study now that i started some work in a bank after ORD-ing. Currently, i hold a place in Imperial College London' EE engineering, which would require 4 years to complete and I would end up with a masters degree with almost 300k education debt. Currently, my friends who are there rattle on about how hard is it to get a graduate job in the UK with the new sanctions on international visas as the economy in UK is declining.

Now, I am currently applying for an SMU double degree in Biz and Econs, which would cost substantially lesser than my overseas degree. I have no doubt that the competitiveness of the school viewed by many as undesirable would be actually be beneficial in working life, especially the cut-throat industry of investment banking and stuff.

So heres the question guys, get into the overseas school and hope to break in banking with an engineering degree (with 300k debt) or stay in SMU and work hard and hope to get a good job in finance in the future? (with no debt)

thanks in advance people.