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Old 30-12-2011, 08:57 AM
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IIRC M4 is the level that is "real manager" (anything below is just ego fake title), that's why the HR limit a small quota of ppl into M4 every year. If join as M3 or M2, sure dio stuck for many years unless you are a star performer.
Although they never offically say so, I figured out that my senior manager title was probably fake one. Realise my benefits, perks & bonus not much different from the non-management.

Everytime got com session or sit in for "selected managers", my peers & I always kena left out and only our boss need to attend.
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